I trained NW hill for a short time. Claimed him from Pete Vestal or Reinstedler at Saratoga, lost him in a claimer at CD that fall. He did win the day I lost him. Sad to hear about his fate.

And someone yanked the information from Pedigree Query. It was up there, including his race record. I'm trying to rebuild it now. Anyone have a pps on him?

Maybe I can email Maggi

There was more to the story but like Echo Farm said, a lot of posts were deleted elsewhere and even the second thread asking what happened to the original.....

Well, it was a sad story and I'm sorry I can't remember the details.

One of those things where many were questioning why he was entered because of some recent history.

Poor thing.

I believe Scav's is up next

Thou shall not be silenced...go Scav's go

good job scavs !!

I missed the first part of Scav's call -- but I hope he smoked her.

I guess you don't become the nation's leading owner without doing any and everything you can to win, even if it's unsavory, and then using crappy lawyer doubletalk to try to justify it.

Thank for calling in Scav's and expressing our frustrations....she was so "over the top" with the defending of him....the proof is in the pudding!

Well done, Scavs!

What was that famous line about lawyers????:D

Maggi Moss contradicted herself on almost every point she attempted to make. She never claimed that anything Dr Allday said last Friday wasn't true, only that he should not have aired "dirty laundry", as this is bad for the sports "public image"??? Are you freakin kidding me!!!

Scav, I will rep you for half my usual rate. Let's get the demo tape going.

I agree, but I didn't want to start throwing accusations out there for fear of getting chased or getting Steve in trouble

I'll give you 50% of my salary if you get me a horse racing talk person job

wow, scav is really on a roll taking on TVG and bigtime owners. whats next? anyone have Stronachs number?

She sounded like a trial lawyer, which she is. Just stop picking on Rick or we'll sue you.

Someone tell Casey in the booth to make sure he does the archive right tonight :)

And if possible, fix the Mandella interview :)

I'm going to listen to it again when the archives are up, but basically that is the message I got from that part of the conversation.

I'm getting the impression that some owners know very little about horses or the sport, other than writing checks, and showing up at the Turf Club on race day.

All I can say is, she unintentionally used GASOLINE in an attempt to put out the "Dutrow Fire". I'm far more annoyed now than I was before. Her big thing is that Rick doesn't hurt her horses. That's all well and good, but doesn't speak to the issue of cheating. It's obvious that she enjoys her success, whatever the means (Dutrow and Assmussen as her main trainers).

I don't think she uses Dutrow as a trainer. She uses Amoss and Assmussen, among others.

" I learned so much about Rick Dutrow" is what she said

She doesn't even use Dutrow? Then why would he choose her as his mouthpiece??

I have never seen a Moss owned horse in Dutrow's hands

Actually, I'd find you pretty entertaining, in an eccentric but knowledgeable sort of way!

Just always wear the shorts and the Saluki cap :D

If not as a trainer, maybe a new client:D

"I fell in love with horse racing because an ambulance follows them on the track. There was just something so right about that."

LOL

I wish there was a central website - DRF? - where you could pay to download lifetime histories of days off/positives on trainers.

Now, it's going to be a rare trainer that has nothing at all (Mandella got a micro-positive on Tin Man out of his last race, in fact, for a NSAID) - but patterns and repeated violations, and degree of violation, would matter to me as an owner selecting a trainer.

Edit: I just realized the above sounds exactly like Maggie Moss defending Dutrow as, "well, it wasn't as bad as cobra venom!"

He was at the sale today, and Coolmore is still there.

I think each governing body probably has a website. I know California puts their suspensions/rulings on the net.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/administrativ...tewards_dm.htm

These are the Del mar rulings

Thanks, Scav.

Can I have your autograph? :cool:

That's funny lol, and quite possible true!:D

When I get big time, I will make sure to remember ALL

Claimed FROM M Moss for 12K 4/27/07
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...int=on&src=tdn

Moss Claimed Northwest Hill back for 10K 5/12/07
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...int=on&src=tdn

7 weeks later runs him for $5K 6/30/07 broke down
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...int=on&src=tdn

She stated this horse was her favorite and like a pet to her.......................

Honestly, I don't think this is the fault of Maggi Moss. I highly doubt she is advised on every single claim that is in her name because I have seen her claim like 10 horses in a day all over the country.

Me neither. Since her falling out with Contessa, she has used Bruce Levine in NY.

She must have some relationship with Dutrow, as Steve said that he contacted Dutrow to be on today, and he directed him to her (at least I think that's what Steve said).
And one more thing, did her statement about her prior trainers that she fired doing bad things to her horses indirectly indict Contessa?

Well, if that is the case, then Dutrow probably called in a favor and asked her to handle the phone call. I can't wait for the archives to be up so I can listen to her WHOLE interview

OMG!! That is just too damn funny right there.:D

Dang Scav.. Hate that I missed your call in. I got home and turned off the car when Steve's interview with her had ended.. I can't wait to listen to the archives.. You the man!