yeah right, i suppose you also never heard of C W McCall.

That is wild bro. We are part of the Bozo Hall of Fame, only fitting.

I just pulled out the tape, It was Nov 25th 1986. Were you on it in Boston or Chicago?

No idea. Wikipedia is great though, it has info on everything

thought i'd try, had a number one song about the same time as Smoky came out. Convoy.
back then we had classic lyrics like this in our number one songs,

Was the dark of the moon on the sixth of june
In a kenworth pullin logs
Cab-over pete with a reefer on
And a jimmy haulin hogs
We is headin for bear on i-one-oh
bout a mile outta shaky town
I says, pig pen, this heres the rubber duck.
And Im about to put the hammer down.

The music world is a better place now

Neither. It came to Philly. I was accompanied by my mom, my best friend, two of my brothers, and one of my brothers' friends.
I never thought in a million years I'd bump into someone that went through that same experience as I did. That is some wild $hit.
I thought it would be cute to show my girlfriend last year...ummmm. no, wrong idea. She played it in front of her family and I was soon after the laughing stock of the month. I wore the bright orange jersey, blue sweatpants WTF? (not to mention they were floodies, didnt even reach my socks). My enormous lips, that didnt fit my thin face back then, were flapping wildly. My voice was screechy and I actually pulled out the Arcenio Hall fist pump. Soooo embarrassing. Best part about it, was when the whole crowd danced at the conclusion of the show. I can't even explain the moves I was doing. Hysterical would be an understatement.
BTWay, when they did the bucket ball toss, the little kids helper couldnt even get it past the 2nd bucket. Some tall lanky guy too.
I'll never forget it as long as I live.

Yeah, I got to bucket 4, the prizes I got was a bozo cake, a wagon, some lincoln logs, and some gi-joe things. Pretty wild. I was messing with Wizzo the whole time. DUTTY-DUTTY DO

Lol. Is there somewhere I could go with my cassette tape and transfer it to a disk so that I could post it on the net? I dont know if you could do that, and wouldnt know where to begin if it is even possible.

no idea, I am afraid to play it because VCR's just eat tape now, and I don't think you can buy a VCR anymore at the store

My VCR plays it perfectly, without a hitch. Im about to bring it to Eckerd or Rite Aid tomorrow on my lunch break. See what they can do for me, or at least point me in the right direction.

My VCR plays it perfectly, without a hitch. Im about to bring it to Eckerd or Rite Aid tomorrow on my lunch break. See what they can do for me, or at least point me in the right direction.

BTW

Although this thread has disintegrated into nebulous prattle I thought I would respond once more. It seems we measure success differently. I am quite aware that if I adjust my ticket(s) and increase the spread (bet more) I would "hit" more often. But that would change my agenda, and I am not about to do that.

I did look at the pick six thread and congratulate the poster that found all six, even if monopoly money was the currency of choice. Calling the handicapping brilliant would seem a stretch. To wit: 8-5 favorite in a kill, 9-5 favorite in a kill, 7-5 free square, even money walkover and an outcross favorite were five of the legs. The other leg was a razor sharp filly in good hands that has moved way up since going green, figured a perfect trip and was dropping substantially in class. BBB

"nebulous prattle"

Your agenda? That has to beg the question " What is your agenda? " as there is no other agenda for a horseplayer other than to win. Thus, since you seem to not want to do that then it can only be discerned that you aren't a horseplayer. No problem. It's good to clear that up.

You do seem to be constantly auditioning for a public handicapping job. That makes sense. All too many public handicappers also don't bet, or understand how to, which is why they continually lead the public astray ( as you attempt to do ).

As for the Pick-6, once again you completely miss the point, and in the usual way. My point was he didn't handicap brilliantly....but he won. Why did he win? Because he played brilliantly. The proof is in the pudding.

As for condescendingly referring to his winning " monopoly money ", the man who spends hours handicapping cards and then only respects his opinion enough to wager $14 should be careful about throwing stones.

Do you fashion yourself as the phuckin Shakespeare of handicapping? Your overuse of the English language is rather disturbing. Kind of reminds me of the Harvard guy in Good Will Hunting. "HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES!!"

What exactly is your agenda if it isn't making money?

Actually Mr. Dirt already proclaimed himself the " Shakespeare of handicapping " quite a few years ago. And, let me tell you, BBB couldn't shine his shoes.....not that anyone would want to.

lol... it was a dark and stormy night as the gloaming set forth upon our interpid single in the contentious nightcap...

"To single or not to single, that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune in a $14 play,
or take arms against the blasphemous favorite
And by opposing possibly end my pick 4 play? To die, to sleep"

Alas poor BBB....he was a man of infinite jest.

By the way, your post race redboarding needs work. Forgetting about how little you obviously looked at the pps to come up with this gobbledygook involving the favorites that won, suggesting that Love Code was " dropping substantially in class " shows a complete and total lack of handicapping comprehension. She was coming out of restricted NY Bred races.

No wonder you never came close to handicapping the Saratoga races successfully.

Triple B, I made an avatar for ya.

what a backhanded congratulations that was. good job, but on the other hand it was all so obvious. here's a news flash for you, WE ALL CAN SEE THEM CLEARLY AFTER THE FACT.

still patiently waiting for you to show why you act so arrogant, and as if you have all the answers about how to play the game. lots of talk but not much to show for it other than a single $190 pick four.

you seem to want to write about races, and care little about winning. do you realize that many people you are talking to on here wager your yearly sum on a weekend, or within a week or two max. in other words people that have far more experience and practice constructing tickets than you do. you should be asking questions and trying to learn rather than always strutting around all pompous and full of yourself.

BBB - Hope you jump in the next contest and flex your muscles. Sounds like you should be able to hit it 3 or 4 times with a $800 budget.

BTW

Your last post got me to respond again. Good show. Please respond to my query in the last paragraph.

But first, in post number 29 this thread you state "he handicapped brilliantly" Then in #54 you refute that opinion. You cannot have it both ways. If my tone was condescending towards the winner... in retrospect the sequence did not seem that difficult.

I prefer being labeled a handicapper rather than a horseplayer. I would 'cap if there was no betting. Since I post, what I play, your assumption that I mislead players is inaccurate. I have no interest in being a public handicapper.

PHILCZKI

I write awful and type worse, but do try to include pieces of 'cappin wisdom in my posts. The use of the term "outcross favorite" above is a good example. They are among the BEST bets in racing, can be found once a day or so at major tracks and outperform all favorites by almost five percent!!! As for my agenda; pass, although it should be clear. Reading Clavell's classic "King Rat" may give you a clue.

Pillow

Not into that avatar stuff, send it to 'Stud he is a big fan. Thanks though.

Back to BTW

I did not look at any pp's but when a horse is favored and blows away his field
they probably figured off the paper. If thats redboarding sorry. If you think its gobblygook, your in error, again.

LOVE CODE is the reason I responded again. I guess you agree that she is very sharp, has improved going green, is in good hands and figured a nice trip. You are correct she goes from statebred to open, but also drops from nonwinners two to nonwinners one.

At what level (going from NY's to open) is she NOT dropping in class?? 3X to one X ? 4X to One X? $aw to one x Stake to one X Thanks in advance. BBB

So you think NY breds are harder then open company? Clarification please

You had a second chance to read what I wrote and still misunderstood me???? That's pretty incredible....but here it is again.....


Since you didn't get it the previous two times let me help you....I was saying ( just as I repeated that I said ) that he won more because of his excellent ticket structure than any handicapping brilliance. I hope this clears things up for you.

As for Love Code....relative to her field I don't particularly agree with any of your comments ( I don't care about the " good hands " crap as it is only relevant in a relative sense and of no consequence here ). As for your complete lack of understanding of the NY Bred program at NYRA racetracks I will be happy to try and enlighten you. They do not run NY Bred allowance races above the NW2X condition. However, in an attempt to increase field size for allowance races, quite a few years ago NYRA began including " restricted " in the conditions of their open allowance races thus enabling NY breds to be eligible for open allowance conditions after clearing their NY bred conditions. Horses making the supposed " class drop " you alluded to have hardly distinguished themselves since that change.

If you bothered to handicap race 5 you would have seen that she was slower than at least three, and probably four, members of yesterday's field and the fields she had been racing against were significantly weaker. That is probably why she was the fifth or sixth choice in the race.

As for the rest, making judgements without ever having looked at the pps of a race is gobbledygook, and never more obvious than with yesterday's card which included at least one, and maybe two, winning favorites that were extraordinarily hard to predict taking the most tote action.

Think you need to reread BTW's post. He said I did NOT handicap briliantly, rather put together a good ticket.

By the way 100% correct.

I know you're a rebel but now it's time for you to conform. Add that avatar STAT.

Andy,

Not that you need any pats on the back, but this thread has called to mind the fact that your advice on ticket structure has been a big help to me, and I wanted to say thanks for that.

I've been fortunate enough to hit more than one pick 4 that I wouldn't have hit without using a multiple ticket approach (apologize for redboarding), and your input in the pick 6 threads really helped me to play multiple tickets more efficiently. I appreciate you sharing your wisdom.

I don't suppose you ever heard of the Freddy Friehofer show....I was on that show in the early 60's or maybe it was the late 50's

The answer: almost NEVER. The rare exception being a NYB stake to open N1X is usually a drop, but not always.

i loved his cookies his bread and his cakes, i love everything freddy freihofer bakes