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Danzig 10-15-2007 04:14 PM
EQ seems to have tailed off. shame too, as i think he's a nice horse, and started off lights out. so hard to make a stallion, getting harder every year.

parsixfarms 10-15-2007 04:17 PM
I wouldn't give up on Elusive Quality too soon, the results of those large books of $100K mares should be hitting the track soon.

slotdirt 10-15-2007 04:20 PM
His runners aren't performing compared to the mares sent to him at least in 2007. His lifetime stats are slightly better.

Coach Pants 10-15-2007 04:25 PM
I'm available.

My fee is a pack of Newports and a double-deuce of Bud.

Danzig 10-15-2007 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I'm available.

My fee is a pack of Newports and a double-deuce of Bud.
but is that live foal? might prove costly to you there pilla.

Indian Charlie 10-15-2007 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Distorted Humor's CI compared with his AEI has consistently been off the chain. Elusive Quality was also in the same boat for awhile, as was Northern Afleet, but I suppose that is what you get when you have two horses the caliber of Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex in your first few crops.
yes, those were the indexes i was referring to. DH was so far greater than anyone else it was just ridiculous.

my namesake had one of the better ratios too at least! i think starting in 2010 or 2011, there will be a big upswing in the quality of IC runners.

Bigsmc 10-15-2007 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Why do you think he's going to be a big time stallion? Any particular reason?
He's KRIM's long lost Uncle....

Pedigree Ann 10-15-2007 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
With the book of mares he is getting, he has every chance to be.

Why do you think he's going to be a big time stallion? Any particular reason?
Anne Peters is designing the matings for Smarty. She's got a good track-record in the field.

Cannon Shell 10-15-2007 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
Smarty Jones is going to be a big time stallion and from the 5 or 6 that I looked at they looked OK. He wasn't the hottest looking colt ever either.
Maybe you can do a stallion primer with the noted pedigree expert PG1985. You both seem to be on the same page.

AeWingnut 10-15-2007 09:29 PM
Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL

Cajungator26 10-15-2007 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL
I loved Eddington... I remember he was quite the head case on the track.

philcski 10-15-2007 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL
Until last week, no. But he now has a G1 winner in Country Star...

Cannon Shell 10-15-2007 10:45 PM
http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=41359

Indian Charlie 10-15-2007 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
woah.

has a horse ever gone from 20k to 150k in 2 seasons?

slotdirt 10-16-2007 05:50 AM
I have to disagree on the comment that Eddington wasn't that good on the racetrack. His 4YO season was turning into something special before he was injured. Millionaire, graded winner at 3 and 4, GI winner as well. I don't see how that is anything other than a success actually.

AeWingnut 10-16-2007 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I have to disagree on the comment that Eddington wasn't that good on the racetrack. His 4YO season was turning into something special before he was injured. Millionaire, graded winner at 3 and 4, GI winner as well. I don't see how that is anything other than a success actually.
Successful but not memorable.

AeWingnut 10-16-2007 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
working on the Kingmambo deal?

AeWingnut 10-16-2007 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I loved Eddington... I remember he was quite the head case on the track.
he still is

Linny 10-16-2007 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
Eddington wasn't a success as a race horse but he may be just as good as Empire Maker.. <-- have any of his babies done anything?

Anyway.. I recently saw Eddington and he was a real character. and TALL
His daughter Country Star won the G1 Alcibiades. He's only had a couple of winners but they have looked good. CS debuted on the grass, running second. They want routes so they should be getting a bit better at this time of year.

paisjpq 10-16-2007 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
woah.

has a horse ever gone from 20k to 150k in 2 seasons?

Distorted Humor stood 2003 for 20K....he was 60K in '05 and 225K for '07
Awesome Again stood 2003 for 50K....went to 125K in '05 and 150K in '07

and for the record smart strike was 35K in 2005... not 20K, that was 2003...

freddymo 10-16-2007 08:18 AM
I remember a few years back reading some posts on the Pedigree Query board and some guy would shut up about Smart Strike. It was Smart Strike is this and Smart Strike that back and forth over and over again.. He was dead right.lol

southerndutch 10-17-2007 10:51 AM
Any reason for Came Home not being mentioned with the other Lanes End sires?

paisjpq 10-17-2007 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by southerndutch
Any reason for Came Home not being mentioned with the other Lanes End sires?

best guess is that they haven't made up their minds yet....praying something he has sired decides to run so they don't have to drop his fee....because right now he isn't going to fill at last years 25.

Cannon Shell 10-17-2007 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
best guess is that they haven't made up their minds yet....praying something he has sired decides to run so they don't have to drop his fee....because right now he isn't going to fill at last years 25.
May be moving to new location?

paisjpq 10-17-2007 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
May be moving to new location?
that was my second thought...maybe they are sending him to texas.

philcski 10-17-2007 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
that was my second thought...maybe they are sending him to texas.
thats an even worse fit- 90% of the races for statebreds are at 6F and shorter

paisjpq 10-17-2007 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by philcski
thats an even worse fit- 90% of the races for statebreds are at 6F and shorter

why be rational about this phil?

philcski 10-17-2007 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
why be rational about this phil?
correct, momentary lapse of reason!

just don't let me do that on saturday at the windows


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