Today was just too much for me to take. I've finally been convinced. Keeneland needs to install Polytrack.

hope teuflesberg pulls thru ok, but multiple fractures....damn, not good.
he certainly can't help the train wreck he was a part of. much as sanders got blasted here, i know the horse was never a part of that. hoping for the best for him.

as for the horse flipping in the paddock, i don't see how anyone can point a finger at keeneland for that. that's just a freak thing that happens with a highstrung horse.

Unfortunately, in the end he paid the price....I can't believe anyone would give her stock, especially on the heels of the rumors swirling around that the horse wasn't sonud to begin with

very sad , now the rest of her string wont eat. and she will have to go back to gasoline and bong water for hair color.........

I'm laughing... out loud

Has anyone heard anything this evening about Teuf?

my good friend and fav jock=) made the trip from remington to BRD to ride 1 day this past week only to have the horse scratched becuz of no papers, LOL what was funny was the horse was in the paddock and everything with 15mtp be4 the scratch occurred.....LOL fucin gyp's. anyways i guess the bush tracks give ya that much wiggle room LOL and as far as ash goes well she got the jocks mount since she was already weighed in and the connections paid her for her gas, but still a wasted 2 hrs there and back thanks to someones incompetence

Well, the lead story on the local NBC Lexington affiliate news at 11:00pm was about "two horses dying at Keeneland today". They showed video of Dream of Angels in the paddock (the horse wasn't seen, just all the people holding up the tarps around the poor horse), had quotes from the attending vet regarding the severity of injury and how easy it is for a horse to suffer severe injury falling, interviewed a few female race fans who were at the paddock when that happened (crying); showed video of Gold Train pulling up in the race and reporting the euthanasia; and showed the video of Teufelsburg being pulled up in his race, and the ambulance taking him off. They mentioned Keeneland has grass and rubber bricks in the paddock for horse safety, and polytrack.

They reported Teuf was taken to Rood and Riddle, "where he is to have surgery next week to fuse broken bones in both his front legs".

Believe it or not, with all that, it wasn't sensationalized, it was very sad and very respectful of the horses. They treated it as they do when there's a bad car accident with deaths.

They reported Teuf was taken to Rood and Riddle, "where he is to have surgery next week to fuse broken bones in both his front legs".



/both front legs?

They repeated "both front legs" twice, at the top of the newscast and in sports. But it didn't sound like it came from Rood and Riddle, and I don't know who they got the "surgery next week" from (which would be Monday, and makes sense), as they didn't ascribe that info to "vets at R and R" or anything.

Maybe they watch ESPN. Don't know.

Not to be naive..but how does that happen? I was watching the race and he was going nicely and then pulled up. I understand a bad step, but...

I heard something about him breaking his sesamoids, but didn't hear that it was both front legs... this can't be correct, can it?

Hyperflexion of the fetlocks can cause sesamoid injuries, and bilateral isn't uncommon in race horses (looking back through the literature regarding same).

We don't know what the real deal is, guess we'll have to see if the owners wish to discuss Teuf publically. I sure hope it's something repairable.

When he got loose after, it didn't appear to be both front legs to me, but I'm not a vet... I just hope he pulls through. Hard to tell how good this colt really could have been. I personally think that Sanders made some questionable decisions and I'll bet that she's thinking about that tonight. Poor Teuf. :(

http://www.wlextv.com/global/story.asp?s=7178804
It says fractures to both feet. very sad hope he makes it

The fact that they use the term feet when the bone isn't in the foot shows a someone who's being a bit vague about the anatomy right there (I mean more so than I would expect from someone who interviewed a vet. I figure that's fair). They didn't quote the vet directly, just paraphrased, otherwise there'd be ""s. I heard fractures to both sesamoids which I bet they assumed were in both front legs when it's actually the sesamoids in the same leg. Correct me if I'm wrong (not a vet or anything) but aren't there two in each front ankle area? The proximal sesamoid bones, connected *wincing because I really hope these are the right anatomy references* by/to/with/whatever the suspensory ligament. Unless that's wrong and then nevermind.

I'd hate to be BSing here but it was the most logical thing that occurred to me since I and a few other people it seems were confused about the idea that he'd broken both front legs. Am I shooting my mouth off or does this make any sense to anybody else?

Could be (yes, two sesamoid bones each ankle). The story on the WLEX website is from AP. Dr. Alan Ruggles is a surgeon at Rood and Riddle. From the TV news, I got the impression he was present at the track today (maybe the AAEP vet present at big event days to deal with media?), due to his detailed description of Dream of Angels. What a tragically ironic name for that poor horse. Rest in peace.

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(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.): It was a rough start to the first Saturday of Keeneland's Fall Meet. Two horses had to be euthanized and a third pulled up short with an ankle fracture.

Teuflesberg, the 17th-place finisher in the Kentucky Derby, pulled up short in the Grade 3 Phoenix Handicap with fractures to both feet. He was expected to have surgery early next week to fuse bones in his ankles, said veterinarian Alan Ruggles.

The ugliest injury of the day didn't happen on the track but in the paddock as Dream of Angels was being saddled for the Phoenix. The horse was euthanized because of severe head trauma, severe bleeding and cranial and spinal cord problems. "It doesn't take a lot of force when you're a heavy animal to be injured severely," Ruggles said. "Around Keeneland, there's grass and there's rubber bricks to protect the horses. But it's like you and I, you just hit yourself in a certain way and just the force at a certain angle can cause dramatic damage."

Gold Train also was euthanized after pulling up lame with a fractured right foot just past the quarter-pole in the Lane's End Breeders' Futurity.

Tracks across the country have been looking into synthetic surfaces, in part to prevent catastrophic breakdowns, such as the one that doomed Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro in the 2006 Preakness. Keeneland was among the first to install Polytrack, and track officials said injuries were down last year.

Ruggles was at Keeneland. Janine Edwards wore him out with Q & A yesterday.

Out of curiosity, how many horses does she have in her barn? Anyone know?

too many.


didn't realize teuf got loose, perhaps that was when the injury to the other front leg occurred, trying to compensate for the one. something that sounded really bad now sounds that much worse.

good luck teuflesberg!

Yeah they cut to it for a second at ESPN and for a moment I thought it was the outrider holding on to him, then I realized the reins were loose and I thought "what are we running here? a clown circus?" He was hopping with it in the air like Barbaro and I had flashbacks to that which freaked me out a bit.

Poor boy, I wish him luck. He seemed pretty determined that there was a job to be done and he was gonna do it from the moment he was being pulled up to when he thought he should bust out and give it another go. Thank goodness it didn't break the skin so that it cuts back on infection (and not gonna lie I would've probably gotten queasy if it had been flopping around on tv). I know it's kind of selfish but after I think about him being ok I start missing the fact that I don't get to see him run anymore. Such a gutsy little guy. So was Jamie waiting to make a deal in any capacity for breeding rights? Just so crazy that she didn't at least have something going. It's not like he's Secretariat for pete's sake. There's a likely limit for whatcha get.

he was entered for sale. i think they may have been shopping him, but maybe asked too much....

if he makes it, no doubt he'll get a deal somewhere.

I just called Rood and Riddle. I asked if they had any media statements or updates to release today regarding Teufs condition - no.

I asked if they had any updates or information regarding the exact nature of the injury - no, nothing other than what Dr. Ruggles has already said publically yesterday.

They did say they were going to release more information tomorrow morning -the girl answering the telephone didn't know the exact time.

Hope that doesn't bode poorly for Teuf. Doesn't sound good. But perhaps the owners just don't care to involve the news media in this. Their choice, they are certainly entitled to their privacy.

Thanks for trying Riot. From what I remember of the statement was that both sesamoids in the front left were fractured not that both front legs were injured.
No matter the controversy of the connections I like Teufelsberg, he is a hard working colt that always tried. I saw him in person all 3 times he raced at The Fairgrounds and was looking forward to seeing him this year.

Oh and the 2 scratches prior to yesterday were owner requests due to disputes among the owners. He was actually saddled and in the paddock and was scratched minutes before the race in his last entry.

I think your right it doesn't sound good, but will hope for the best.

I like Teuf, too. Maybe the professional journalist among us, Steve, will get or hear more information today.

They did an update on ESPN earlier.

The injury is just to the left leg, not both. Per Dr. Bramlage, he's resting comfortably. They've got him on fluids and blood thinners. Apparently there were some issues last night with blood flow to the leg, but it was looking better today. Still planning on surgery sometime early this week.

Good news, I was afraid he might already have been euthanized! THANKS for posting that!

"very sad , now the rest of her string wont eat. and she will have to go back to gasoline and bong water for hair color........."

Very, very sad news about T-berg. I'm wishing him the best. I might even call Rood and Riddle myself tomorrow morning. But jesus Christ, this is funny.

Best line of the day.

yeah, they said he's doing very well, and they are very hopefully. i was certainly relieved to see that it was not bilateral.

btw, anyone heard anything on tiz wonderful?

glad youre entertained but it really isnt name dropping when shes one of my best friends is it? you continuing to be a prick is not surprising

Lord Have Mercy on Oracles soul

I talked to Sheikh Mo yesterday and he's still interested in purchasing Teuf.

It really sucks that this happened to Teuf. :( I actually feel bad for saying something about Sanders' training the other day...no one wants to see this happen to their best horse.

I really don't like when ESPN replays the moment of injury and they should have never showed when he got loose in case he made his injury worse.

Is he your favorite sheikh?

Here's a link to the DRF article on him. It really was both front legs. Looks like the initial breakdown was the left front and the right front came after.

http://drf.com/news/article/89258.html

On an update from the bottom of that article, who knew Ravel was on the comeback trail. For some reason I'd just figured he was out.

He's second only to The Iron Sheikh.

According to Dr. Ruggles on Steve's program today, it's only left front, but both sesamoids. Steve posted the link in the ATR room, it's the start of the first hour. I read today's DRF as you did, I imagine they may have talked to Sanders immediately after the injury? Weird, unless she doesn't know what's going on?