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The number of locals that attend the day/s would drop dramatically-rain,sun or snow-as they won't pay the price of entrance/seats that the 10,000+ visitors from overseas and the thousands of North American racefans need. And where will everyone stay-the meet works because hundreds of people either vacate their homes or rent to track people in-between Skidmore and Navy lets. And how will people get there? |
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If you think the BC crowd is the same backyard picnic crowd that fills Saratoga in August then you are mistaken. |
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I don't know why I continue to play devil's advocate, as Saratoga will never get the BC. |
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You used an example that was wrong, very wrong. Sorry that you do not like facts used to point out the falsehoods you use as fact in your arguments. I am not disagreeing that Saratoga will not get a BC. I just feel that the reasons are more then weather related. I do not feel weather is the only reason, or the most pertinent reason. |
My vote remains the same...Kentucky Downs.
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i would think that if the powers that be thought saratoga was do-able, the bc would have been there by now.
maybe nyra doesn't want it there. i mean, for what? belmont can handle the crowd much better. saratoga is excellent for the time of year it's open, and for what it does. |
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What percentage, outside of the obvious group you are referring to, of those hard core handicappers/fans who are " picnic area " denizens, make up the crowd? Simply put, the BC crowd will not, for the most part, be happy being in the picnic area, especially in late October. |
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People who own rental properties won't be able to accomodate anyone. Those that rent to Skidmore will be full, those who rent for the meet and then rent to people who work locally want to have someone renting within 1 week of the end of the meet and won't chuck em out so someone can come in for 2-3 nights in late October. Local hotel accomodation is growing and the new Hampton Inn will be ready by the 2008 meet-but I honestly don't feel that there's enough rooms at the top end of the market in the area. Where would the Breeders' Cup HQ hotel be? Where would the Media Hotel be? I can think of 1 hotel maybe 2 that could be used-but of course with all those rooms out of commission-that the guests who normally stay there are forced to look for inferior accomodation further out of town. |
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I feel we both agree on this, I just feel there are more logical reasons to dispute why having the BC will not be run at Saratoga. You have touched on many of those, but continuing to argue the weather case is beyond tedious. I do not think that boswd understands why it is not feasible for Saratoga to host a BC. Harping on the weather only keeps him going. List the dozen other reasons it will never happen and maybe this arguement will fade away. |
[quote=saratogabrit]People who own rental properties won't be able to accomodate anyone. Those that rent to Skidmore will be full, those who rent for the meet and then rent to people who work locally want to have someone renting within 1 week of the end of the meet and won't chuck em out so someone can come in for 2-3 nights in late October.
Local hotel accomodation is growing and the new Hampton Inn will be ready by the 2008 meet-but I honestly don't feel that there's enough rooms at the top end of the market in the area. Where would the Breeders' Cup HQ hotel be? Where would the Media Hotel be? I can think of 1 hotel maybe 2 that just aboutcould be used-but of course with all those rooms out of commission-that the guests who normally stay there are forced to look for inferior accomodation further out of town. |
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I tried to be nice and have a discussion with you. I even tried pointing out what I felt was some very poignant statements that you used that were not purely based on the weather. Its my fault for even trying. You know it all, everyone else is wrong. Have a great day. |
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Again, your class shines above any decent conversation you are willing to have. |
And wouldn't there be a problem with seats? Saratoga is possibly unique amongst tracks that the bulk of the seats are sold either for the whole meet or the bulk of the meet and that most people either keep the same seats or move closer to the Box Seats as years go by.
Breeders' Cup takes over for the 2 days and the norm is that all the best seats in the house-so probably all the clubhouse seats-would be taken out of circulation and their usual occupants forced to enter a lottery for seats in tents 5 miles from the finish line :) |
It rarely reaches 90 degrees in Saratoga...maybe 2 days this Summer.
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I just checked. It hit 90 four times during the meet. I think this was a rare year. Some years it has never hit 90. http://www.cbs6albany.com/sections/weather/historical/ |
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You have to clean and have ready all the dorms, bathrooms, stables, etc. How about all the parimutuel equipment? That all has to be shipped up and tested in a matter of hours. What about food and bev? There are many more logistical issues, these are just a few off the top of my head. |
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My brother is a teller for NYRA and has been shipped in for BC Day at Belmont, Arlington, Churchill and Gulfstreaam and KY Derby Day. The BC committee sends them in from other tracks is the need is there. |
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Do they pay for all his travel, and give him a per diem? |
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No for the most part you are on your own in terms of finding accomdations. They gave him a list of recommendations they give you meal vouchers and a very nice paycheck. |
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And oh yes you have to pay for your own travel expenses |
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But Louisville Airport has more flights a day than Albany and is also less than half the distance to the nearest Hub/International Airport than Albany is. During the meet a steady stream of people are coming and going but when Breeders' Cup ever came to town everyone would arrive in a 48-72 hour time span |
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I don't think it would be a problem either. People would just make the proper adjustments on the getting flights in that are direct to Albany but are full. Most would pick up flights that would go through NYC which has flights to and from Albany almost on the hour every hour. |
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It was stinking hot this summer. |
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Albany is over 150 miles from the nearest Domestic/International Hub. Some foreigners will hire cars in Boston or New York or take the train up from Penn Station but the bulk will have to change planes in New York etc and they'll all be trying to get on the same flights that racefans from the US and Canada are trying to get seats on. |
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