Now here is the real question, Can Sciacca type and how fast will it take for him to become an internet legend?

I wish all the partners all the best. While making money, making the races, etc., is never a guarantee, I am sure what is guaranteed here is having fun -- and boy can you have fun with Gary.

The people who are involved and who are putting forth their time, efforts, money and everything else should and will enjoy themselves. This truly is the "greatest game" -- and they should not spend one second of time jutifying anything to anybody; especially the people who are doing nothing more than being a source of negativity.

Enjoy and best of luck!!!

Eric

Steve is busy writing the 2nd bible right now on this thread, been like 20 minutes, probably full of words I won't understand

Appreciate the expanded comments and acknowledge you've got it right in all you detail above.. And I didn't mean to come off harshly in my defense of Gary and EVERY guy out there who "hasn't forgot how to train"...

Increasingly, I'm joining the trainer community in their frustration with the growing direction of ownership that is pitching their tent exclusively with guys that DON'T NEED their support and who are 'pushing the envelope' in any way conceivable to win. It is reprehensible to me that a guy suspended for 6 months PICKED UP NEW CLIENTS (including Bev Lewis) while on a flagrant medication violation. It's disgusting that the supposed upper echelon of owners in this country wants to win so badly that they throw their support behind guys that are generally believed to be "taking an advantage".

Indeed, our venture is not out to make money in any way... It's designed to get as many people into 'ownership' as possible in a low risk/set price contribution to the acquisition of the bloodstock. After that, it's Chuck and Gary paying the freight in exchange for 50% of any and all earnings. And what we're doing is working as Chuck has already picked up 2 new clients and several horses via the attention received as a director in Dee Tee. Gary too is on an upswing again after an extended drought that began with the death of his two top owners. He got a former Clement client this week and 2 new wealthy owners that are at KEE with him this week to buy an early book yearling or two.

Guys like Chuck and Gary and dozens more deserve the respect and support of those interested in ownership based on their long histories of success in the game at the bloodstock identification and afternoon competition levels of racing. It's impossible to produce gaudy win percentages with inferior stock, and it's impossible to gain quality stock when prospective owners base their decision on phony win percentages padded on an uneven playing field.

Did Gary Contessa suddenly 'learn' how to train after years as an unabashed mediocrity? I don't think so.. Has Jim Toner or Del Carroll forgotten how to train suddenly after decades as 15-18% trainers? I don't think so.. I'm sure you get my point here...

How do you know what I'm doing? I'm making the point that if you want to attack trainers with low percentages, you should start with guys like Pletcher and Contessa, who inarguably oversee better stock than Sciacca.

Time for bed kids there's school in the morning....."g'night all" here's hoping "Deep Dish" is live yet again in two years as a DT purchase he trains wins one of the 3 dozzen BC races that will be run by that time with the stable donating a million to combat inhumane treatment of horses. :D

I like the mission of Dee Tee Stable to provide low cost ownership opportunities of fine horses. It's not a matter of, as Santana said, just buy 6 expensive horses throw their s**t on a wall and hope some sticks enough to cover expenses for the rest. Reasonably priced horses, low overhead, that have great training, can win. I am pleased to be a member of a board comprided of lovers of the game, that have seized the opportunity to participate. And we all share the same dreams while keeping our feet planted squarely on the ground.

Ok, here's some good trainer bios: Mr. Sciacca is on pg 40.
http://nyra.com/Belmont/mediaguide/0...ersSection.pdf

That's exactly it, Steve, Chuck and Gary have made it affordable for the "little guy" in this sport. Since most on this board are gamblers, I think we all have a pretty good idea of what we can afford.

I know you get it, but do you really get it?

Thanks for looking out for me. You don't happen to work in the Government do you?

Unfortunately, a lot of "blockheads" that post here don't understand this. It's a simple small investment that has reap rewards money can't buy. This year's Spa meet was extra special; meeting the members, making new friends and seeing a horse you part own run two times at Saratoga. A simple $500 investment bought that! :)

Great news regarding NYB!!!

I drive from LI to Queens/Brooklyn everyday. Any excuse to get to Belmont and Big A more often is good for me...

Looking forward to it!

Yes,Yes.There's more going on here than anyone thinking there's a large pot of gold to be captured but if you don't chase the rainbows you may never find it.For my wife & I this is as much a social activity as my college football season tickets,the preferred parking as well as the social interaction & "Donations" made are far more expensive than this venture but you can't put a price tag on great fun,friends,entertainment & dreams.Someday my college team my make a BCS bowl game & SWLY will win a graded stake, but I'm also a realist that enjoys good friends & fun times. :D 1 SHARE SWLY $500, MONEY WON TRAVELING & FOLLOWING SWLY BY WAGERING ON HER & OTHER RACES OF THE WEEKEND $3200 & SEEING STEVE DRESS UP LIKE DICK TRACY---PRICELESS:D

Oh yes. I like Contessa for what he did for Golden Tent. I do recall that he trained Truley Alone to several vistories at Belmont. Then she was claimed and was off for quite a while. She has won a couple lower level races since at Philly but she was never the same after the claim.

ROFLMAO!!!! A True likeness

Here's Wood Winner , Prime Timber/Near Silver-Lac Ouimet, upsetting the field last Fri. @ Belmont. Trained by Gary Sciacca.
http://www.racereplays.com/nybreds/i...cename=friday1

Well, here is some interesting fallout from Dee Tee Stables ....

When Sumwonlovesyou raced at Arlington (I grew up there), about 8 of my local relatives come out to watch her. None of them had ever been to the track before, nor watched racing on TV.

They all were wonderfully impressed by how beautiful and clean Arlington was, how excited all the owners were, and how exciting it was to "know" a real horse that was racing that day.

We all stood in line, with a very nice and helpful mutual teller, as I lead them one by one through how to place a $2, "across the board" bet on Sumwon. They couldn't believe how much FUN the DT owners were having that day.

My 70-something aunt just telephoned. I had sent her the DT Prospectus for DT-2. Well, she and her four tennis-playing buddies at the local club WANT IN on DT 2 for one share. Two of them want to upgrade their computers to learn how to "search the net" and read the DeeTee Stables blog, and learn more about horse racing.

You go, girls! I told them, yes, absolutely, I hope they follow through with it, and go for it.

Five new horse racing fans created by Dee Tee Stables ...

I've been turning my relatives and friends into degenerates too. :D

Kudos
 

Thats a great story ! & a wonderful way to introduce people to the wonderful game we love !

Well, if Steve gets a check from "The Wheaton Tennis Terribles", hopefully he'll just cash it and send them a DT silks pin! :D

Yes - now that DT Stables have secured their two guards - I'd look to adding Scott Schwartz and Eric Guillot as tackles - and perhaps Nick Hines as the center.

Bring in Roger Stein off the bench on 4th and inches when you have to call upon the Beef Formation.

i was a two-way tackle in HS so i'm ready to come off the bench or for a goal line stand.

In this race Tactical Gold was behind a mass of muscle while Wood Winner had a clear head of steam down the outside. TG swung around the wall of blockers, made a strong run but Wood Winner was firmly in the lead to become the upset winner. So the blocking helps :D

And you guys at Arlington apparently well-impressed my aunt, too .... ;)

EASY with the high school war stories.... :)

I was keeping people at work up to date on Sumwon and they seemed really excited for me. They even bet her a few times. Then I asked them if they wanted to get in on 07-02 and they said, "what do you think I am? stupid" so then I ask my horse playing buddies. ummm, no.

I guess horse ownership isn't for everyone. But I'm glad your relatives had a good tme and want to get in on the next horse. Hopefully a All-Weather type.

Buying a share of a horse the way we're doing it is the equivilent of going to dinner and a movie about 8 times... A family of 4 going to a professional sports event once... Or perhaps a couple making two trips to the casino or riverboat...

I'd venture to say that a share in a Dee Tee runner provides a lot more fun than either of those two pastimes... I'd also guess that the people you're suggesting buy-in think there is on-going expense involved in becoming a partner.

Go to a ticket broker and buy concert tickets or sporting event..and you will spend that much money. That is a one time event.... Sumwon...just keeps on GIVING ! Plus how many rock stars or ball players can you feed
peppermints from the palm of your hand ??? :p

Well Riot...if they live in Wheaton, the check's good:)

What does BHE stand for?
 

Pardon my ignorance what does this mean? We were there for gary's win oin Toga!!! I had 10$$ across the board plus exacta, I got 426.00 also bought my kids 2 across the board! It was memorable.;)

BHE stands for Best Handicapper Evar

No, I explained that part. I think they would rather go to a Cardinals game.

The $500 for the share was the cheap part. It was driving to the track and betting her to win

doh

Steve, I am definitely in this one as well as the yearlings. Really look forward to having one here on the NY circuit!

Wood Winner's win was equal parts a nice horse feeling great and sitting on a big effort and terrific race riding by Alan Garcia who kept Coa pinned in behind horses. "Woody" also wasn't letting anybody by him Friday and has a bite mark on his ass from Tactical Gold for his efforts.

Editorial Point: I've had horses with Gary for 8 years now and while we've had some lean (pardon the pun) times it has ALWAYS been fun and entertaining. Gary truly cares for his horses and does the best he can with the stock he has. (Case in point, we claimed Wood Winner for $14K from Contessa and I've won 5 races and about $90K) I think it's a great move getting him involved.

Paul!

Good to see you here.

Sincerely,
Joe

Glad to be here.

Just got my catalog for the Fall Mixed Sale at Saratoga (Oct. 14). Anything worth while there?

ummm, my partner and I own hip #309...catalog page needs correction. Legislature, out of Compund Girl, should be in black type. He finished 2nd in the Take Me Out S...however, Saratoga Warrior, #309, will be an "out"...

the on line catalog
http://nybreederssales.com/index2.shtml