The Mohawk & Otsquago don't compare to the Gulf of Mexico, Mississippi, Cat. 4 or 5 hurricanes...and damn right I was drinking beer...didn't want it to get warm!!!

Hoss, face it man we aren't going to come to complete agreement on this.
Sensitive. Could be many things, but I've been fired up about this since it happened. Almost got booted out of a family Labor Day picnic two years ago when this happened. The arrogance of the mayor and the absolute stupidity of the Governor for starters. The looting, rape, rioting, etc. don't sit well with me either. Not to mention the stupidity of many of the residents who could've gotten out an didn't. I'm sure there were many hardworking residents who suffered catostrophic losses and I do feel for them. Of course I'm sure many people think I'm just being racist. That's not the case. I'd feel the same way if it was a city of whites, greens, yellows, etc.

fpsoxfan,
Thank you for re-reading my original post. I saw that after I posted to your post.
Anyway, I absolutely agree with you about the handouts, it's the same people that got them before bitching about getting them now.

Funny thing is while us and many of our friends were in disasters areas 1. most of us didn't need help because we were prepared, and 2. we don't live off the system so we dont know how to get it, seriously we are really dumb about it.
I have no sympathy for the people screaming for the housing projects. ( then again if they opened them back up we would know where the crime is, now it's just all over the city)
But like I said 1.5 milion people evacuated, hard working people who paid dearly for insurance only to get screwed. One man raised his house 20 ft. out of pocket and because FEMA had not made the flood maps yet, he will not be reimbursed. So many have moved over here to my little 6 red light town we now have traffic jams, I am in the country. It all happened so fast you can't keep up with roads, and infrastructure.
it's all crazy here, every day. The talking heads keep talking, the hard working folks just keep working and we send money to Baghdad everyday.
AND do not get me wrong, I certainly support our troops, not the war in the wrong country.
Katrina/Rita and now all this flooding in the midwest is a wake up call that we really need to take care of our own, especially the hard working people that just keep plugging along.
The nursing home is an absolute disgrace..I hope those people rot in hell for leaving those old people there.
And the animals, I responded as a vet tech. another disgrace.
It is hard to judge when you don't live here and even harder when you do. I will never understand how this all happened in my beloved country.

Geaux Saints!

No Not an idiot. Actually good point. But as some of the others said, when it is home it's home and people want to come back.
And don't believe all you see on CNN or any other media. Parts of the city are coming back. You should plan a trip to THE Fairgrounds when sumwon is here.:)

HaHa, where winning, had to turn the TV on back here, little tv not my 65" hd...:p
Sean Peyton rocks....

Hell yeah he does (I love Drew Brees too :o )... I'm watching LSU as well. :D

Oh, and for those who haven't seen this (it's on my myspace page too):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seGhTWE98DU

Other than the Spa..it's one of my favorite places to play the horses. That long stretch provides many thrilling finishes. Maybe I'll have to overcome what I've "heard" about the area and pay a visit sometime. :)

You should... I'm going and am planning to stay in the French Quarter. I can't wait. :cool:

damn Scav, nothing like starting a bar fight amongst your buddies and leaving when the first punch gets thrown and then show up afterwards to see how much damage is done.....lmao :D

sacreligious to drink warm beer.
This thread made me get a cold one.
Got to stay off these political threads.
How are the tigers doing?

LSU is shutting the Bulldogs out so far 24-0. They've still got 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

Me too...no more politics tonight...just tastes great vs. less filling!!

Touchdown LSU!

Well you should. I'll even give you a tour. Tourists don't know the good spots.
Yes The Fairgounds does provide thrilling races, Especially the stretch. And we have a great jockey colony, good horses and barns, lots of colorful characters and a ball at the Paddock bar.
BTW the French Quarters has a new waste managament team they even spray the streets with perfume now so it's cleaner and smells prettier. But it still is a bawdy laissez la faire town.

I have tried real hard to play nice on this one because it is a sensitive subject and I do kinda understand where everyone is coming from. The bottom line is race, income level, crime rate, education level, religion, or anything that has to do with the makeup of the city of New Orleans should not be in question period! The only thing that should be in question here is how did this happen in our country?!?

So you get a blizzard (yes I saw the pictures) and let's say it destroys your town. You have no food, no money, no home, and no one is coming to help you, then you are told "oh I know it's where your home is, but you know what, we think you would be better off on a cot in a gym somewhere in Idaho. Oh and don't worry about your things, they're gone, you don't have the blizzard insurance, so you aren't going to get anything for your years of labor, and we really don't know what happened to the rest of your family and neighbors, but hey, good luck to you."

The inconvenience of the winter snows and associated power outages doesn't come close to what those people went through. I lived on the Gulf Coast and went through a pretty significant Hurricane (Elena) and just not having power, water, gas, etc for those 2 weeks was horrible. But again it all comes back to the fact that when a community in our country was in dire need of help, the people that were elected to provide that help were not there to answer the call.

Uh OH...another get together in the works.
Now listen we run a tight drunken ship down here..so no fussing and fighting afterwards...everyone is supposed to get in trouble.:D

I think we're going to book one of these hotels (Prince Conti or Hotel St. Marie)... have you heard of them?

http://valentinoneworleanshotels.com/HotelStMarie.html

Don't tell that to Emery Giovannone! :rolleyes:

http://capitalnewsnine.com/content/h...33&ArID=219133

Used to just love all his letters to the editor about how everything is wrong in this country...he should be happy now! ;)

For you & fpsoxfan...it's down to "5" ! :D

great card for Saturday...anybody want to go over???

Phuck no... LSU is on! LMFAO :D

Football season, college or NFL ...starts after the Spaaaaa!!!!!!!!! :)

We were prepared, and went 2 weeks without power. Florida got reimbursed for gas the year before but they decided on Katrina they weren't reimbursing us. I spent over $1000 to run generators and help the older folks around here that just couldn't deal with going to Baton Rouge to get supplies. We were fine though, people came to our house but it cost a small fortune to keep things going. Jeb Bush's state got gas reimbursement but we couldn't.

Uh did you not get the memo were all drinking beer now and giving up on how our country sucked in it's moment to shine?;)

it's odd that the media continues to chase a story that isn't there. the workers, the ones who are motivated, are rebuilding. but the ones being interviewed are the ones who took handouts before, and want to continue to do so now. they aren't the ones who will rebuild, as they aren't builders! they are takers, not workers.
the workers don't get interviewed, as they are busy building. as for depending on the govt, they don't get anything right, so why would they get this right? when a disaster is headed your way (and it's not like hurricanes pop up out of nowhere) make a plan and prepare. but those sucking from the govt teat know nothing other than to continue to expect to be taken care of.

'they' should rebuild--but 'they' isn't the govt--'they' are the people actually rebuilding--not waiting for grants, loans, subsidies, and red tape being cut. new orleans is probably a mistake, but other cities and countries exist in that type of environment, and new orleans can as well. hopefully, this time they get it right.

You are kidding.................................right?

about what?

maybe i wasn't clear about what i mean in my earlier post. the govt doesn't build cities, or re-build them. if business and industry wants to stay there, they will IF they have people there to employ. People will want to stay, as not everyone is ready to throw in the towel any time you have a disaster. after all, if we all automatically hit the road after any and every disaster, there would be nowhere left to live. between floods, fires, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes and blizzards, there is no safe place left. but it's not the govt who will ultimately decide if, when, or how much of new orleans rebuilds. it's the people--they need jobs, and companies will come if they have a viable workforce. you can't have either one of those without the other. the govt helps by providing small business loans, low interest rate loans for those who had no flood insurance, etc. after all, who would WANT the govt to be in charge of the rebuilding? all they know is low bid gets the job--which explains why the levees failed to begin with!!

Of course, rebuilding might go a bit faster if the Bush Administration would have used some common sense and waived the requirement that the local governments must put up matching funds in order to receive rebuilding money. Seeing as how those local communities have been washed away, where is the matching money supposed to come from? They have no businesses and no workers to generate any. Over half the rebuilding money is currently sitting around, waiting for some magical thing to happen to these poor neighborhoods.

But take heart- Alabama took full advantage of investment tax breaks, meant to spur regrowth in the Katrina area, to build luxury condominiums near University of Alabama's football stadium. Which is a couple of hundred miles away from the ocean. That'll help a lot.

Thinking about some of the earlier posts, about "Just move and get a job"- I strongly, strongly recommend Barbara Ehrenreich's "Nickel and Dimed" which is about her experiences attempting to get by in several parts of the US on a minimum-wage job (as a single person, with no kids). She does exactly what is suggested- moves to a new area, and attempts to get work and housing with no savings. Very interesting read.

Article by Greg Palast
 

just came across this:

http://www.gregpalast.com/%e2%80%9ct...%9d/#more-1843