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Betsy 07-04-2006 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Like many already know, I am a huge Happy Ticket guru and even I thought that Indian vale was the best Distaffer heading into this season after I saw her win last fall at CD...she is very talented but I'm not sure how genuine she is now after she flopped in the Shuvee....I'd like to see more fight out of here before I reinvest my liking towards her...at least Happy Ticket is a fighter....I still think Indian Vale is every bit as good as Oonagh MaCool from a talent perspective...just my opinion...let's see if she can rebound and salvage her season...se is by the very nice Marley Vale out of A.P. Indy so you won't see her racing for much longer before she retires to be bred...I say at the end of this season regardless of what happens....


Indian Vale's Shuvee flop was a shocker, but Todd must have found something because I don't believe she's worked since then. I wonder if she'll come back at all. That race was too bad to believed.........If she's ok, she's very talented. It would be a shame if she couldn't race again.

boldruler 07-04-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
You drinking already Ruler? I know its a holiday but I didn't have you pegged as a 9 Am drinker. You have to be drinking to make that prediction!!!

It says bold predictions doesn't it? Watch out for that horse at 6F. I guess saying Pletcher will win a BC race is really bold.

Cunningham Racing 07-04-2006 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetness
I'm with you on that Woodford Reserve race, she was really up against it. I just don't know if that amazing kick of hers will be as effective going 1 3/8. I was also high on Diamond Green, but I just read he ran an uninspiring 3rd today at Woodbine.

WHAT!!!...I had that donkey in my stable mail and never got an email that he was in....Let me check the charts.....CRAAAPPPP!!!..Anyone else have this ever happen with there stable mail?...AHHHH!..It happens a lot with mine...of course, I have about 200 horses in it...

Cunningham Racing 07-04-2006 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Help me out. How did you come to think Henny Hughes was at/near the top of U.S. sprinters BEFORE his race last weekend? The horse hadn't run in nine months, hadn't sprinted in 10 months and hadn't won in eleven months.

I don't look for accomplishments so to speak, I try to forecast potential, and I've always thought based on his pedigree and brilliance and class as a juvenile that he'd prove to be a top class sprinter at three and as an older horse....Great sprinters are possessed with an uncanny high-cruising speed and he has it....he can effortlessly carve out a 45 second half with the jockey sitting on him like a statue...this quality is huge because he can place himself in any race in the world without exhausting himself early....that is rare....additionally, he still has a pretty good push button off of that and he showed that he is a fighter when stretching out in last year's BC Juvy to be a game second when I know 1 1/16-miles is not close to his best distance being a Hennessy out of a Meadowlake mare....that was pure class and heart that carried him that far IMO....Additionally, if you examine his stride it is simply peotic...to have that quick a turn of foot, ge looks like he does it so effortlessly and his stride is so efficient he looks like he is one of those horses that won't have to carry his track with him because his biomechanics are as good as it gets in a horses stride that he should take to any track as good as any other horse he races against.......I love this colt, and I agree that physically he is superior looking now to waht he used to look like.....Sometimes you just can tell the goods when you watch them run and he is the goods....

TheSpyder 07-04-2006 09:54 AM

From the horses mouth
 
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I will win the 6th at Churchill Downs Today!

Bully For You

oracle80 07-04-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
I don't look for accomplishments so to speak, I try to forecast potential, and I've always thought based on his pedigree and brilliance and class as a juvenile that he'd prove to be a top class sprinter at three and as an older horse....Great sprinters are possessed with an uncanny high-cruising speed and he has it....he can effortlessly carve out a 45 second half with the jockey sitting on him like a statue...this quality is huge because he can place himself in any race in the world without exhausting himself early....that is rare....additionally, he still has a pretty good push button off of that and he showed that he is a fighter when stretching out in last year's BC Juvy to be a game second when I know 1 1/16-miles is not close to his best distance being a Hennessy out of a Meadowlake mare....that was pure class and heart that carried him that far IMO....Additionally, if you examine his stride it is simply peotic...to have that quick a turn of foot, ge looks like he does it so effortlessly and his stride is so efficient he looks like he is one of those horses that won't have to carry his track with him because his biomechanics are as good as it gets in a horses stride that he should take to any track as good as any other horse he races against.......I love this colt, and I agree that physically he is superior looking now to waht he used to look like.....Sometimes you just can tell the goods when you watch them run and he is the goods....

Man when he switched leads and took off it was something to behold. I haven't seen a burst like that in a long time.

TheSpyder 07-04-2006 09:56 AM

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Make that the 7th race!

Cunningham Racing 07-04-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Well Artie won the mile last year and Singletary won the mile the year before. Plus Gorella is from Europe just racing in the US the past two years. Gorella wins the mile if she goes.

I know, I know...but I was at the 2004 BC and the Coolmore Danzig colt shouldv'e won but he was Spencerized in the stretch...actually I think the horse was just a rogue.....Also, anybody who knows the Lone Star course knows that it is the exact opposite from European courses....I've walked it before and it is like a putting green.....I wouldn't count that year for a true result....

As for Artie, I bet him last year because he loves BEL and looked to break through off of some tough-luck races, AND most importantly, there was a poor contingent of Euros unlike most years.....If the Euros bring their first string or even good second string they will win the Mile nine eight out of ten years IMO....Something will come over that is more formidable than Gorella IMO....

Cunningham Racing 07-04-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker
Don't know how bold this is, but Lava Man will go undefeated the rest of the season (even against FA) and take the older horse division and HOY.

I personally think the sprint division will be the most exciting this summer/fall. TMB, LITF, HH...I might give the edge to TMB for the BCS.

Now that I've used up my daily allocation of acronyms, it's back to my thesis. 10,000 words due by tomorrow...gaaah.

Lava Man will lose his best friend when he has to travel away from the West Coast just like he did last year.....nice horse though....

Cunningham Racing 07-04-2006 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
HH will get clobbered going 6F against top flight sprinters (should that trainer make the mistake).

I doubt he runs 6F anymore anyway (the guy's pretty clever).

He will be a very good horse going 7F to a mile. Should be @ his best (for money earned purposes) going two turns up to 9F.

Only one or two sprinters a year make any serious money.

Now that is bold....you won't be able to van Henny Hughes 9 furlongs....write that down right now..

Pointg5 07-04-2006 10:04 AM

I predict Minister's Bid will win the Travers, I have been a big fan of his since his debut and boldruler, I remember you saying everyone knew about this horse: How did he go off at 10-1 in his debut, if everyone knew about him?

my miss storm cat 07-04-2006 11:00 AM

With the exception of Bullish Luck (and I say that only because who knows what will happen with SW and Vengeance of Rain - although he's doing nicely in his recovery), there will be a changing of the guard at the Cathay Pacific Hong Kong races at Sha Tin this year..... out with the old, in with the new. No surprise with Super Kid retired, Best Gift and Russian Pearl (still) injured.

Their names are Armada and Bulldozer.

Armada... worked his way up quickly gaining those precious HK points. Unbeated and in the final Sha Tin race of the season (the Sha Tin Mile Trophy) defeated All's Well to take the Most improved Horse Award (he deserved it). Size trains..... undefeated (6 out of 6).

Bulldozer..... a little different but worked his way up from Class 4 to Class 2 (3 wins, 1 place out of 7 starts). Trained by Yip..... he fights and fights and shows heart every time. Lovely horse and imagine the headlines! Bulldozer Crushes the Field.

Danzig 07-04-2006 12:03 PM

hmm..bold predictions.

bushfire wins the distaff, and top filly honors.
lava man wins the bcc and HOY.
deep impact schools the field in the arc.
cacique win the bc turf, ouija board second. hasili (dam of cacique, banks hill, intercontinental) wins broodmare of the year.
lost in the fog wins the sprint by a head bob.
gorella gets her mile win over the boys.
the jacksons get breeder of the year for barbaro and george washington.

Downthestretch55 07-04-2006 12:18 PM

Bold prediction??
OK....
Corinthian defeats Ministers Bid in the final strides of the Travers.
DTS

irishtrekker 07-04-2006 12:30 PM

DTS, I'm with ya!! Is Corinthian actually coming back for that? Man, I can't wait to see him run. I hope he's still in good form.

packerbacker7964 07-04-2006 12:33 PM

I will get drunk at the Track today and throw lots of tickets on the ground.

Downthestretch55 07-04-2006 12:36 PM

Irish,
I would love to see that happen. I'll keep my "ears" out for any news from Jim Jerken's barn and let you know.
This would certainly be a triumph for both Jim J and Corinthian after a big disappointment.
He won't run him if he's the least bit suspect.
The Mid Summer Derby is what he was aiming for.
Stay tuned.
DTS

Cunningham Racing 07-04-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
hmm..bold predictions.

bushfire wins the distaff, and top filly honors.
lava man wins the bcc and HOY.
deep impact schools the field in the arc.
cacique win the bc turf, ouija board second. hasili (dam of cacique, banks hill, intercontinental) wins broodmare of the year.
lost in the fog wins the sprint by a head bob.
gorella gets her mile win over the boys.
the jacksons get breeder of the year for barbaro and george washington.

Not too bold with several of these predictions....the Jacksons will get breeder of the year just off of that feet alone...

Cunningham Racing 07-04-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by packerbacker7964
I will get drunk at the Track today and throw lots of tickets on the ground.

:D :D :D :D

That is classic baby!...LOL...freaking beautiful...I predict I'll do the same..

Danzig 07-04-2006 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Not too bold with several of these predictions....the Jacksons will get breeder of the year just off of that feet alone...

sorry, i tried!....some of those came to me while putting up some of the others.

Ruffian2 07-04-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Irish,
I would love to see that happen. I'll keep my "ears" out for any news from Jim Jerken's barn and let you know.
This would certainly be a triumph for both Jim J and Corinthian after a big disappointment.
He won't run him if he's the least bit suspect.
The Mid Summer Derby is what he was aiming for.
Stay tuned.
DTS

I'm so excited to see Corinthian back in business. I love this horse!

Sweetness 07-04-2006 03:14 PM

After just seeing him demolish another field, Afrashad is going to win the BC Sprint. I'm not sure if it's bold enough, but this horse is a freak.

GenuineRisk 07-04-2006 03:16 PM

I'll pick the Derby Winner in 2007.

(Can we list bold predictions for 2007?)

Downthestretch55 07-04-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruffian
I'm so excited to see Corinthian back in business. I love this horse!

Ruffian,
I'd love to see him back too.
I was just giving out a "bold prediction". There ain't no guarantees in this business.
I have the highest respect for Jim Jerkens regarding his ability as a trainer.
When I find out what's in the works, I'll post it.

With that said, I also have lots of respect for Todd P. and Keirin Mc.
Frank LaBocetta is a trainer that is way too often overlooked, as are Stanley Hough and Linda Rice....and Shug is going to have one-hell-of a toga-meet.
There's another prediction.

btw, I really like Minister's Bid. I hope he does really well. Deputy Minister's have been my hopes for quite a while...I've bred two to his son.
DTS

my miss storm cat 07-06-2006 01:29 PM

David Junior off the board in the Coral Eclipse (..... unlike Aussie Rules).
Alexandrova wins the Irish Oaks.
Iffraaj wins the Darley July Cup.
Peeress and Maraahel join Dylan, Araafa and Pride, who each add another Group 1 win this summer.
Pride hits the board in the Arc.
My Miss Storm Cat defeats the lovely and talented Dubai Escapade in the Princess Rooney. (Okay not really sure about that last one, but.....) :D

kentuckyrosesinmay 07-06-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
I'll pick the Derby Winner in 2007.

(Can we list bold predictions for 2007?)

LOL!!! I'll predict to do the same!

Cajungator26 07-06-2006 03:46 PM

Strong Contender will win the BC Classic. How's that for bold? :p

kentuckyrosesinmay 07-06-2006 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Strong Contender will win the BC Classic. How's that for bold? :p

Was it kingofturfway that said Bernardini, Showing Up, and Strong Contender would end up being the three best three year olds earlier this year? He must be eating this up right now after SC won the Dwyer the way he did this weekend, and after SU annihilated the field two weeks ago.

Cajungator26 07-06-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Was it kingofturfway that said Bernardini, Showing Up, and Strong Contender would end up being the three best three year olds earlier this year? He must be eating this up right now after SC won the Dwyer the way he did this weekend, and after SU annihilated the field two weeks ago.

Yeah, I think that King liked Showing Up and Strong Contender a lot. Not sure about Bernardini though. All kidding aside, I think that SC is a late bloomer because of his size and I think that he will get better and better...

kentuckyrosesinmay 07-06-2006 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Yeah, I think that King liked Showing Up and Strong Contender a lot. Not sure about Bernardini though. All kidding aside, I think that SC is a late bloomer because of his size and I think that he will get better and better...

I want to see one more race from SC before I decide my opinion of him. I think you are probably right though about SC being a late bloomer.

Downthestretch55 07-06-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
LOL!!! I'll predict to do the same!

The 2007 Derby winner will be "Whodaheck", and in 2008, "What the F"

Rupert Pupkin 07-06-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Was it kingofturfway that said Bernardini, Showing Up, and Strong Contender would end up being the three best three year olds earlier this year? He must be eating this up right now after SC won the Dwyer the way he did this weekend, and after SU annihilated the field two weeks ago.

Hey Jessica, I got your message. I'm glad you liked that horse(the one at Barretts). I don't know if you got my last message but I sent it to your "private message" box on this site. I finally figured out how to get my private messages here. I had a few of them and didn't even know it for a couple of weeks.

kentuckyrosesinmay 07-06-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Hey Jessica, I got your message. I'm glad you liked that horse(the one at Barretts). I don't know if you got my last message but I sent it to your "private message" box on this site. I finally figured out how to get my private messages here. I had a few of them and didn't even know it for a couple of weeks.

Hey, yeah I got the messages. I'll PM you back about them soon.

paisjpq 07-08-2006 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
simon pure will win a grade I

this horse is going to have to get over his serious case of seconditis. Second in his last three starts! He cannot lose allowance races if he is to fufill my prediction.

my miss storm cat 08-23-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
David Junior off the board in the Coral Eclipse (..... unlike Aussie Rules).
Alexandrova wins the Irish Oaks.
Iffraaj wins the Darley July Cup.
Peeress and Maraahel join Dylan, Araafa and Pride, who each add another Group 1 win this summer.
Pride hits the board in the Arc.
My Miss Storm Cat defeats the lovely and talented Dubai Escapade in the Princess Rooney. (Okay not really sure about that last one, but.....) :D

I thought we should check and see how our predictions were doing.

Alexandrova did indeed win the Oaks (and another Group 1 yesterday) but the rest of mine have sucked.

How about you all?

I'll stand by my Pride-in-the-Arc prediction.

Anyone wanna make some new ones? Must ponder.....

paisjpq 08-23-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
simon pure will win a grade I

considering he is entered in an A/OC on saturday, mine is not looking so good...:(

my miss storm cat 08-23-2006 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
considering he is entered in an A/OC on saturday, mine is not looking so good...:(

I really like Simon too..... surprised i didn't make that same prediction. :)

King Glorious 08-23-2006 09:14 PM

I'll say that I think the BC winners will be:

Sprint-Henny Hughes/Bordonaro
Distaff-Mo Cuishle/Fleet Indian
Turf-Hurricane Run
Mile-Cacique
F/M Turf-Ouija Board/Film Maker
Classic-Bernardini/Discreet Cat

Hurricane Run becomes the first horse to win the Arc/BC Turf double and is named 2006 World Horse of the Year.

Lukas wins one of the 2yo races at the BC.

There will be a grade one in NY with only three horses.

2Hot4TV 08-23-2006 09:47 PM

Bold Predictions

The new main track at Hollywood park will be a big hit and draw eastern based stables to the west.

The Breeders cup races will be run on polytack in the next 10 years.

Betsy will start dating Joel if Bernardini wins his next race.

Lava Man will win HOY.

horseofcourse 08-23-2006 10:44 PM

Funny Cide will win the Woodward...given.


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