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The Indomitable DrugS 06-14-2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
How wonderfully astute of you.

I'm sure you celebrated by running a dozen red lights.

I was not one of those lucky ones......

My little brother however was....and I believe business was always booming for him in the ritalin trade.

SentToStud 06-14-2007 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I was not one of those lucky ones......

My little brother however was....and I believe business was always booming for him in the ritalin trade.

Congratulations. Your fathers must be proud of the two of you.


I'm glad I was able to answer your sad cry for attention. I'll let you carry on solo.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-14-2007 08:54 AM

Only telling it as it was.

Every kid knew what was being most commonly used.

SentToStud 06-14-2007 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Only telling it as it was.

Every kid knew what was being most commonly used.

Your sad cry for attention duly noted.

Perhaps you can start a "We couldn't overcome having lousy parents" thread.

That's my best and only advice other than perhaps reading it while listening to a violin quartet.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Congratulations. Your fathers must be proud of the two of you.


I'm glad I was able to answer your sad cry for attention. I'll let you carry on solo.


First of all, everyone knows DrugS is all about a " sad cry for attention ", however in doing so he usually brings up salient points ( mostly, and thankfully, these are horseracing related ). Since you are a very sharp guy I am quite sure you are able to see this and frankly I'm surprised you are reacting in an unusually ( for you ) unfair manner.

Many of us have lost friends to drugs ( some of us would like to lose DrugS as a friend ) but that doesn't mean we also can't see the hypocracy in society's penalties involving drug offenses and other crimes against humanity.

Mortimer 06-14-2007 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Your sad cry for attention duly noted.

Perhaps you can start a "We couldn't overcome having lousy parents" thread.

That's my best and only advice other than perhaps reading it while listening to a violin quartet.


At least he offered a reason which you,to date, have not.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-14-2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Your sad cry for attention duly noted.

Perhaps you can start a "We couldn't overcome having lousy parents" thread.

That's my best and only advice other than perhaps reading it while listening to a violin quartet.

You're obviously the only one looking for attention....and you know that.

I simply replied to a guy who brushed off a comment about ritalin and the impact it has on kids.

I've never known, saw, or heard about a single kid who's taken Meth. Ritalin on the other hand, was commonly snorted in school...and everyone knew it.

Antitrust32 06-14-2007 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
You're obviously the only one looking for attention....and you know that.

I simply replied to a guy who brushed off a comment about ritalin and the impact it has on kids.

I've never known, saw, or heard about a single kid who's taken Meth. Ritalin on the other hand, was commonly snorted in school...and everyone knew it.


I've known people who have snorted ritalin (aderol) and people who snorted meth. The ritalin users stayed up all night studying for an exam. The meth users stayed up three days and nights not eating, bugging out, stealing, and eventually becoming homeless.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I've known people who have snorted ritalin (aderol) and people who snorted meth. The ritalin users stayed up all night studying for an exam. The meth users stayed up three days and nights not eating, bugging out, stealing, and eventually becoming homeless.


This is precious stuff.

Mortimer 06-14-2007 09:25 AM

I must correct my earlier statement.


The Drugster never claimed his parents were bad. Now mine were very bad.....but then I never sold ritalin.






But people do write songs about me.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy





But people do write songs about me.


Zombie Woof?

Mortimer 06-14-2007 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is precious stuff.


It's priceless....ya might say.

Mortimer 06-14-2007 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Zombie Woof?

Well NO.







MortyAngel.

Everyone is singing it.

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable
You're obviously the only one looking for attention....and you know that.

I simply replied to a guy who brushed off a comment about ritalin and the impact it has on kids.
I've never known, saw, or heard about a single kid who's taken Meth. Ritalin on the other hand, was commonly snorted in school...and everyone knew it.

Didn't brush it off. Just saying Ritalin and Meth are two different situations.
Besides, anyone who glorifies d. abuse is a pretty shallow person to begin with. Shame on anyone in here that might think any of this is funny.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Besides, anyone who glorifies d. abuse is a pretty shallow person to begin with. Shame on anyone in here that might think any of this is funny.



I find this part pretty funny.

Is that shameful?

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I find this part pretty funny.

Is that shameful?

You would

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
What a schawntz.





Get a fix.

Get a job

The Indomitable DrugS 06-14-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I've known people who have snorted ritalin (aderol) and people who snorted meth. The ritalin users stayed up all night studying for an exam. The meth users stayed up three days and nights not eating, bugging out, stealing, and eventually becoming homeless.

Oh, so you mean snorting ritalin is just a performance enhancer to help you get better grades?

If that's the case...no wonder why I wasn't into it.

It did seem like a real suspicously high number of honor roll members were all into it.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
You would

Yes, silly me, I find sanctimonious lecturing by people determining other's personal feelings about serious issues from internet posts to be downright knee-slapping hilarious.

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Yes, silly me, I find sanctimonious lecturing by people determining other's personal feelings about serious issues from internet posts to be downright knee-slapping hilarious.

Who's lecturing? You just turn into a weasal when you get challenged. You are quite an interesting person. Maybe I can arrange for you to be the rebuttal to our anti-drug guest speaker at our school. funny Stuff.

Mortimer 06-14-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Who's lecturing? You just turn into a weasal when you get challenged. You are quite an interesting person. Maybe I can arrange for you to be the rebuttal to our anti-drug guest speaker at our school. funny Stuff.

no-no!!...ME!!!

The Indomitable DrugS 06-14-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Maybe I can arrange for you to be the rebuttal to our anti-drug guest speaker at our school.

Hawk is speaking at your school?

Antitrust32 06-14-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Oh, so you mean snorting ritalin is just a performance enhancer to help you get better grades?

If that's the case...no wonder why I wasn't into it.

It did seem like a real suspicously high number of honor roll members were all into it.

Just using observation here, ritalin or aderol is used to by children and adults who have ADD to help calm them and help them concentrate. When used by someone who does not have ADD or ADHD, the drug keeps them awake but it also helps with concentration. In college, a lot of people I know (it is very widely used, at least at the college I went to) used it to write papers or study, cause it would keep them up and help them focus.

That is just the type of abuse of ritalin and aderol that I observed at college. I am sure in high school the kids who abused it used it for a lot of different reasons, one of them probably to seem "cool".

Coach Pants 06-14-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Just using observation here, ritalin or aderol is used to by children and adults who have ADD to help calm them and help them concentrate. When used by someone who does not have ADD or ADHD, the drug keeps them awake but it also helps with concentration. In college, a lot of people I know (it is very widely used, at least at the college I went to) used it to write papers or study, cause it would keep them up and help them focus.

That is just the type of abuse of ritalin and aderol that I observed at college. I am sure in high school the kids who abused it used it for a lot of different reasons, one of them probably to seem "cool".

I use it to surf the internet.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Who's lecturing? You just turn into a weasal when you get challenged. You are quite an interesting person. Maybe I can arrange for you to be the rebuttal to our anti-drug guest speaker at our school. funny Stuff.


You really should take a step back and follow some things said in this thread. Some of us were actually giving thoughts about the basic hypocracies we believe exist concerning laws in society. Somehow you decided to personalize this and lecture people on how they should behave instead of actually discussing the issue.

Where did I say I was pro-drug as you have just suggested? Who are you to ascribe beliefs to me?

It is you who has insulted me, and used your usual name calling, for what reason I really don't know.

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
No matter how anyone stands on this, the bottom line it's sad. Greta was working her way through the ranks. Being a woman in the jockey business is not easy. It's sad she chose this lifestyle. "Bad choices, bad consequences"
She has nobody to blame except the woman in the mirror. Let's hope she comes out of this a new person free of the evils of addiction.

This is how I started my posting

Mortimer 06-14-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
This is how I started my posting

It's not how we start...it's how we finish.





Didn't your parents ever tell you that?

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Besides, anyone who glorifies d. abuse is a pretty shallow person to begin with. Shame on anyone in here that might think any of this is funny.

And this is what you followed it up with. Some sort of lame personal attack on others, with no real basis in the conversation being held, instead of an actual discussion of the issue at hand.

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 10:09 AM

[QUOTE=blackthroatedwind]I find this part pretty funny.

Is that shameful?[/QUOTE]

This is what you said

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And this is what you followed it up with. Some sort of lame personal attack on others, with no real basis in the conversation being held, instead of an actual discussion of the issue at hand.

Because..Andy...people were making light of a serious situation...That's all.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
[QUOTE=blackthroatedwind]I find this part pretty funny.

Is that shameful?[/QUOTE]

This is what you said

Yes, I said that because you turned a discussion into a personal condemnation into others.....and I found that " funny ".

You followed this up with calling me a " weasel ".

Coach Pants 06-14-2007 10:12 AM

http://www.drf.com/news/article/85789.html

Read that. Looks like someone is snitching. Others will pay for her mistakes. What a lovely justice system.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Because..Andy...people were making light of a serious situation...That's all.


They are? Unlike you I prefer to read what people write, and think about their points, as opposed to ascribing their unknowable feelings behind them.

DrugS wasn't making light of the situation at all. He was making some very interesting points.

Coach Pants 06-14-2007 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
I'm afraid it's parents like you who stimulate drug abuse.





Let the little ones have some fun and don't be such a schnook.

"I've seen what drugs can do to a person. I have to look in the mirror everyday."

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Yes, I said that because you turned a discussion into a personal condemnation into others.....and I found that " funny ".

You followed this up with calling me a " weasel ".

I didn't feel I turned it into that. Just offering insight into the meth situation.
If people choose to go partake in any type of abuse..then so be it...but once again like many times on this board if you challenge one person you have to be able to stave off the of rest their hench men.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
I didn't feel I turned it into that. Just offering insight into the meth situation.
If people choose to go partake in any type of abuse..then so be it...but once again like many times on this board if you challenge one person you have to be able to stave off the rest their hench men.


This is BS.

You were the poster who said people here should be " ashamed of themselves " and followed that up with name calling. Nobody other than you is responsible for that.

It is one thing to share your personal opinions about the topic being discussed and another one entirely to start pointing fingers at posters here.

Frankly, you saying I could be the respondant to an anti-drug lecturer at a school is disgraceful. Where exactly are my pro-drugs comments in this thread?

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 10:27 AM

Have a great day everyone. Sorry if I offended anyone. Let's stick to horse racing. Not long until we are a the SPAAAAAAAA. :) :D :) :D

fpsoxfan 06-14-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is BS.

You were the poster who said people here should be " ashamed of themselves " and followed that up with name calling. Nobody other than you is responsible for that.

It is one thing to share your personal opinions about the topic being discussed and another one entirely to start pointing fingers at posters here.

Frankly, you saying I could be the respondant to an anti-drug lecturer at a school is disgraceful. Where exactly are my pro-drugs comments in this thread?

Andy...have a great day....This has gone way to far. Let's relax....I didn't mean weasal in put-down sense...more of a squimish sense. Whatever...
This has to be over with. You guys may or may not see the druug thing from my point of view..that's fine. I work closely with kids...law enforcement.. and
as a volunteer fireman I've been educated on the dangers of meth and meth labs. That's all I have to say. Let's move on.

Cajungator26 06-14-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Just using observation here, ritalin or aderol is used to by children and adults who have ADD to help calm them and help them concentrate. When used by someone who does not have ADD or ADHD, the drug keeps them awake but it also helps with concentration. In college, a lot of people I know (it is very widely used, at least at the college I went to) used it to write papers or study, cause it would keep them up and help them focus.

That is just the type of abuse of ritalin and aderol that I observed at college. I am sure in high school the kids who abused it used it for a lot of different reasons, one of them probably to seem "cool".

One of my best friends was addicted to the stuff when she went to FSU. She said it made her concentrate better and she was afraid to stop taking it because she feared that her grades would suffer. I'm thankful that the only drug addiction I have is to caffeine.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2007 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Andy...have a great day....This has gone way to far. Let's relax....I didn't mean weasal in put-down sense...more of a squimish sense. Whatever...
This has to be over with. You guys may or may not see the druug thing from my point of view..that's fine. I work closely with kids...law enforcement.. and
as a volunteer fireman I've been educated on the dangers of meth and meth labs. That's all I have to say. Let's move on.


I probably see a lot more of this from your point of view than you realize or believe. I certainly understand what you and others have said here about the dangers these drug labs present. The only thing I truly resent is you suggesting that I am " pro-drug " with no basis for those comments whatsoever. That's personal, unfair, and unwarranted.

I will have to remember, in the future, that calling someone a weasel is not meant as a put-down.


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