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GPK 06-09-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
Like wash it? :cool:

Meanwhile, I threw T'Berg on my pick 4, speed cutting back is one of favorite betting angles. Alive for another 1/2 hr :rolleyes:


*note to self...start looking for 3 furlong cut backs*:D

somerfrost 06-09-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauchos0522
...as long as she keeps him sprinting

Everybody was critical of her after the Derby but this wasn't a tired, over-used horse we saw today...sure the pace was fast, expected to be but he clearly stumbled out of the gate and was shuffled back to dead last and still beat some well respected sprinters easily...if nobody else will say it..."Great job Jamie!"

pointman 06-09-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
maybe now Jamie Sanders can afford to do something with that hair...:eek: :eek:

or get her fiance to a dentist.

pointman 06-09-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
I mean she figures as a solid trainer

she was what, 3 for 120+ horses she's saddled this year, wins for fun against this bunch

someone PM when Imawildandcrazyguy draws off by 20+ to win Belmont, b/c thats pretty much the way the day is going

-bt-

My day is going just as well.

2MinsToPost 06-09-2007 03:44 PM

that dude who she is getting married too was layin some serious lip

dude chill out:p

she must smoke, rough voice

yeah the hair has issues, 10-4

GPK 06-09-2007 03:47 PM

I honestly think I saw her in the smoking section when I stopped by the OTB earlier to place some bets.

Thought I heard her yelling..."dem's my numbas...dem's my numbas.."

She would fit right in out here in redneckvil...I mean Roanoke.

Scav 06-09-2007 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
LOAD UP on EC...things will be good again.


No wait...PLEASE DONT BET HIM.

Not betting anything, and with the way Pletcher is going today, EC has little chance to hit the friggin board (There you go, he is in the winner circle now)

GPK 06-09-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Not betting anything, and with the way Pletcher is going today, EC has little chance to hit the friggin board (There you go, he is in the winner circle now)


excuse me while I go back to the OTB and load up some more....

Gauchos0522 06-09-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Everybody was critical of her after the Derby but this wasn't a tired, over-used horse we saw today...sure the pace was fast, expected to be but he clearly stumbled out of the gate and was shuffled back to dead last and still beat some well respected sprinters easily...if nobody else will say it..."Great job Jamie!"

That doesn't give her an excuse for completely mismanaging this horse. The horse obviously has talent and has found his spot here sprinting but she is lucky that he is like the iron horses of old. Entering this horse in the derby was a complete joke and I understand it's the derby but cmon now im going to continue to be critical of her until she begins to show she understands what kind of horse she has here. After today it should be very very clear to her...

Antitrust32 06-09-2007 03:50 PM

Jamie sanders, wow. I'm glad she got her 3rd win for the year. Her husband should put in a gold tooth for the missing one with that money! The gold would go with the cowboy boots :)

T-burg is a real nice one turn horse. I remember cajun and i discussing during his arkansas races that he would be a good one turn horse ( 7 f to a mile). I wish I wouldnt have let those stupid triple crown preps and derby to mess with my thinking.

Coulda Shoulda Didnt

pointman 06-09-2007 03:51 PM

I'll make it easier for you guys, think the 10th race is deep. The only ones I did not use somewhere are the 1 and the 4. Run, don't walk, to the windows and bet 1,4.

sumitas 06-09-2007 03:51 PM

One of the most discussed horses on this board comes up big with 5 weeks off. Tberg looked much refreshed and game.

Antitrust32 06-09-2007 03:54 PM

yeah she looked very intelligent and professional with that hair.

Nice to get her 3rd win of the year.
























still stupid

just has a good horse


if she can train him to win


anyone can

somerfrost 06-09-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauchos0522
That doesn't give her an excuse for completely mismanaging this horse. The horse obviously has talent and has found his spot here sprinting but she is lucky that he is like the iron horses of old. Entering this horse in the derby was a complete joke and I understand it's the derby but cmon now im going to continue to be critical of her until she begins to show she understands what kind of horse she has here. After today it should be very very clear to her...

In other words, you don't like her so it doesn't matter what she does, you won't give her credit! This horse had every right to try the Derby...there is only one shot at the Derby and if you have a fit horse (and obviously this one is) why not try? If the horse came back dull you might have a point but this wasn't a dull horse you saw today! Sure, he appears to be an old fashioned iron horse, don't you think she realizes that?

Cajungator26 06-09-2007 03:59 PM

I love this horse...

Congrats to the connections of Teuflesberg. :)

sumitas 06-09-2007 04:00 PM

You called it. Hope you cashed a nice ticket.

King Glorious 06-09-2007 04:00 PM

Getting a win here doesn't change the fact that it was stupid to run him in the Derby. I don't think anyone ever said that they thought he was a tired or overused horse. Just misplaced. In fact, I take the opposite view. I thought he was a fresh horse. He hasn't run in months. He didn't run a step in the Derby and only ran a quarter mile in the Blue Grass.

Cajungator26 06-09-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
Like I said on Wednesday.....TUEFELSBURG......A LOCK ON SATURDAY.

At least spell his name right... TEUFLESBERG

Congrats on picking him... hope you made some $$. :cool:

Gauchos0522 06-09-2007 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
In other words, you don't like her so it doesn't matter what she does, you won't give her credit! This horse had every right to try the Derby...there is only one shot at the Derby and if you have a fit horse (and obviously this one is) why not try? If the horse came back dull you might have a point but this wasn't a dull horse you saw today! Sure, he appears to be an old fashioned iron horse, don't you think she realizes that?

I never said I wouldn't give her credit for today's win but I will continue to be critical of her due to the spots that she was entering this horse. I guess he did have the right to enter the derby but everyone and their grandmother knew this horse had no chance to be in the top 10 of that race. The horse has had 5 weeks off and as I said has some talent sprinting. But to not question her training ability and style with not only this horse but others as well is ridiculous. She is now 3 for 116 so obviously she has been doing things very very wrong. But to make everyone happy congrats to her for her thrid win. I hope she realizes what kind of horse she is working with now.

Downthestretch55 06-09-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
LOAD UP on EC...things will be good again.


No wait...PLEASE DONT BET HIM.

It all depends on whether Seattle (Jerry) likes him today or not.
Does anyone know?
What does Hank Goldie have to say?

Rupert Pupkin 06-09-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
The one lock of the day on Saturday at Belmont is Teufelsburg. Sanders has him primed and ready to run a new lifetime top and blow away the assembled sophmore sprinters, returning him to prominence on the national stage.

Tuefelsburg- You just can't beat him.

Great call!

-BT- 06-09-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
It all depends on whether Seattle (Jerry) likes him today or not.
Does anyone know?
What does Hank Goldie have to say?


speaking of hank, he gave me a good MUSH job when he singled Hesanoldsalt in his PK4 tickets, needless to say i tore my tickets up when i heard that

"we can't win, we've been mushed"

-bt-

somerfrost 06-09-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Great call!


Excellent call...he paid very well so the drinks should be on you!

Scav 06-09-2007 04:24 PM

NY is just impossible, I can't beat them there

Fearless Leader 06-10-2007 05:46 PM

Best performance of the day, bar none. Not bad for a trainer who was said by a prominent forum member to be "blind without a cane".

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-10-2007 06:01 PM

the horse is ok man you called it..but she is a 2 perc trainer..and this the best horse she will have ..hes feeding alot of people so i hope he wins some more..

philcski 06-10-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
NY is just impossible, I can't beat them there

I can't either these days. The prices are just too accurate.

When you beat TWO 3/5 shots in a p3 sequence with a 7/2 (2nd choice) and a 10/1, sandwiched around an 10/1 in a brutally tough race, and the p3 only pays $900? That's tough.

dellinger63 06-10-2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I can't either these days. The prices are just too accurate.

When you beat TWO 3/5 shots in a p3 sequence with a 7/2 (2nd choice) and a 10/1, sandwiched around an 10/1 in a brutally tough race, and the p3 only pays $900? That's tough.

IMO the 'dead money players' abundant on big days have to be taught the pic 3 play. I think most are WPS bettors or maybe exacta or triple players if they remember how the bet works from their last trip. The wiser players were caught playing against each other with pic 3's and the payoffs showed.

By the way nice meeting you and see iyou n Saratoga Springs.

eajinabi 06-11-2007 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
Best performance of the day, bar none. Not bad for a trainer who was said by a prominent forum member to be "blind without a cane".

GREAT PICK!!!!!!! It was great that this horse learned to rate. I really thought this horse was a one-dimensional front runner. I would like to see this horse try the turf and see if he can handle one-mile on the turf.

eajinabi 06-11-2007 12:02 AM

FEARLESS: Do you know anything about Sanders' other horse Pro Pink (or something like that). I really think this horse has some promise as well

sumitas 06-11-2007 12:11 AM

Pro Pink is a graded placed sprinting 3 yr old filly. She is by Touch Gold and from the family of Man 'O War and Assault.

pointman 06-11-2007 12:30 AM

Did he rate or stumble in the gate and be forced to be somewhere other than the lead?

declansharbor 06-11-2007 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pointman
Did he rate or stumble in the gate and be forced to be somewhere other than the lead?

I agree. I believe he stumbled leaving the gate which in turn could have been what won him the race. Great job by the jock to not rush back to the pack, knowing they were going to fry each other on the front end. He was last at every call except the one that matters. Terrific race by the Toof and pilot.

blackthroatedwind 06-11-2007 12:47 AM

I don't recall the start but he was steadied to last on the turn.

The Bid 06-11-2007 12:25 PM

Pro Pink is a slow crow

The Bid 06-11-2007 01:14 PM

They were offered 650 after her big 2yo race and declined. Bet they wish they would have taken that offer now. You cant have a barn full of Tueflesbergs, gotta have at least a hand full of Pro Pinks. Horses that show promise and never run well again

TenMostWanted 06-11-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman
Did he rate or stumble in the gate and be forced to be somewhere other than the lead?

he "stumbled badly" leaving the gate [robby albarado's words], had to steady around the turn, ran off the pace for the first time ever, and was whipped i'm pretty sure only 5 times.. last 1/8th? i think was a hand ride. nipping at the pony horse & kicking up his heels on the way back to the winner's circle.

THAT'S MY BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!

TenMostWanted 06-11-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearless Leader
The one lock of the day on Saturday at Belmont is Teufelsburg. Sanders has him primed and ready to run a new lifetime top and blow away the assembled sophmore sprinters, returning him to prominence on the national stage.

Tuefelsburg- You just can't beat him.

you are very smart. :D

been on his bandwagon since the sanford, only now i'm invested!

if they had a yahoo smiley on this board, i would be using it.

:)


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