I must be getting old...never heard of Hall and Oates??? Wow!

thanks for the insight

After looking at the PPs I really like Boboman here. . .

not hurting here, just love the horse.nothing wrong with that. just reading your constant babble is all that hurts:D

this is great race to handicap
 

Porfido ,Grand Point are scratched. Kip Deville is still on..

lol of course no one is forcing me. i just am telling you you babble.

yes

I am looking at a Boboman - Hockey the General
Exacta Box

As opposed to the constant babble about a horse that hasn't won since Nixon was President?

first- when i bet him, do you not think i realize he has had a problem of winning in recent times? i bet on him for fun cause i like him. is that so bad?do i think he will win ever again, i don't know but i know he has more raw talent then any other horse in this race. and i do believe in my heart he will win again, maybe never a grade 1. are you telling the you have no doubt in your mind this horse cant win a graded stakes ever again? i'm exacta boxing him with bobo and hoping for the best.

if i bet hardcore like you, no i wouldn't bet him to win. only to round out exotics. its that i want to see him hopefully regain some of his previous form and catch another graded stakes

I think it would be appropriate to change the title of the thread to " Perfect Drift in the Back. "

Another throat infection I assume.

i would have to believe that there is something physically wrong. you have to admit he should have never been last in that group. have to wait and see.

I don't agree. He has barely run a step in quite some time.

It is time to retire him....and at the very least to stop shipping him all around the country.

to his credit he has burned the most win pool money in the last 5 years...:D

it may be time. but i believe dr reed will run diagnostics on him first. don't you agree that to see him place last was a surprise also. i will have to wait and see what comes of this. i think if they find nothing then he should be retired, cause he is better then this type of showing . with this outcome i'm not sure what to think:confused:

I'm not at all surprised he ran last. He is simply no longer competitive.

Look, he's had a terrific career, and run many excellent races despite some curious handling ( the inane insistance that he was a turf horse has wasted more than a few races in his career ). However, he's no longer remotely competitive in halfway decent races. Plus, shipping him around the country in a desperate attempt to squeeze some more money out of him seems pretty unfair.

The last place finish surprised me since I thought there were at least two or three horses he could beat. Time's definitely caught up to him. It'll be nice to see him go to the farm or maybe get a gig as a lead-pony at Churchill or something.

As for me, I'm still sore from Perfect Drift's 2004 Whitney.

NT

On paper he looked in the lower half of the field, last maybe a surprise but not much.

i will be curious to see if something shows up otherwise it may be time to retire

i mean that just isn't even the same drift from last year at all and to see him last against a few of those horses is very strange

I highly doubt any of the problems they have claimed after his poor efforts have been true. It's BS. He is too slow for the races he is running in.

Frankly, if every time he runs poorly he exits the race with a problem you should really wonder about his handling. Enough.

Be careful Andy...you are making way too much sense here...

and funny cide gets a pass..lol agreed more a spotting problem

thats where you are completly wrong i was there when they scoped him after the bcc and heard it right from the vets mouth . so its not BS

Pdrift I think we all love your namesake and even if something shows up, it's time. He showed no interest today or at Keeneland and this is a gutsy horse. No shame in that, he's had a tremendous career. Had a few more head bobs gone his way he'd be on his way to the hall of fame.

no i understand that . i said it may be time . but to say that they are making excuses when i heard it firsthand is just not true .

sorry i call it plodder...he is a million room also ran..and has been for a wile ..he did make a few bucks along the way but..his sire may have been called mediocrity...

Why is this horse so controversial? I just don't get it.
At ages 3 and 4 he was a very good horse. He won six graded stakes in those two years.
At age 5 and 6 he began to decline considerably. Although he still managed some good performances, (particularly the '05 BCC) and was consistently in the money he (not surprisingly) wasn't the same horse he was at ages 3 and 4. That is perfectly natural.
At age 7 and now at age 8 he has regressed further. He isn't the consistent G1/G2-caliber horse he once was.
Would ANYBODY disagree with any of the things I said there? If not, why are there so many arguments about this horse? I am not trying to be a smart-ass.....I really don't get it.

i would agree

I wouldn't.

Agreed. He's done his fair share... it's only fair to the horse to retire him and let him get started onto something else.

Just in case any of his connections are reading this...

I would give him a wonderful home. :) Lots and lots of treaties. I can give references...