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I swear Mom's Command had an offspring who broke their maiden in the past week or two.....for something like M10. You'd have to think if it was a filly it would be worth at least 10K for breeding alone.

I think Nafzger should've gone in this year.

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Well....He was a multiple Grade 1 winning 2yo....and Lava Man was running in maiden claiming races at the fair circuits at that time in his career.

Best Pal will have a hard time getting into the Hall of Fame because he never won any major stake races East of Arkansas...and he notoriously didn't fire his best races on Breeders Cup day.

But he was as honest and hard hitting as race horses come. Based on his career versus Lava Man's as of today....I'd certainly take Best Pal.

Lava Man is going to have to win in the East---and even if he does---the fact that many voters might think he was a "move-up" by a trainer without the greatest repute in the game...that might hurt his chances as well.

No question about it. I just mean from a fan perspective and kind of the gutsy gelding Cal bred type.

My Best Pal memory: I remember some a$$ at Gulfstream that year saying "Best Pal can't win the Derby, he's a gelding". I was 13 in 1991 and thought that was about the dumbest thing I'd ever heard at a racetrack!

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Originally Posted by JJP

maiden 30. guess who finished 2nd?

Best Pal would drown Lava Man if both horses were at their best, remember Best Pal when he turn 4 and he just was awsome before injury, while he was good after, he was never the same IMO.

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Best Pal would drown Lava Man if both horses were at their best, remember Best Pal when he turn 4 and he just was awsome before injury, while he was good after, he was never the same IMO.

In a hypothetical match race at 9 furlongs....

Would Best Pal at age seven with Garret Gomez be able to beat Best Pal at age four before the injury?

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

In a hypothetical match race at 9 furlongs....

Would Best Pal at age seven with Garret Gomez be able to beat Best Pal at age four before the injury?

If Corey Black was the other rider? easy

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If Corey Black was the other rider? easy

i remember way back he was riding san berdou in the early 90s. i think he had about a 5 length lead and he whacked him with the whip left handed. suddenly san berdou bolts waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out past the center of the track, loses his momentum, and gets caught.

he's walking back to the jocks room and i said to him casually, "hey corey, smart move there".

he replies to me "AS*HOLE!"

it made the painful loss worth it!

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Originally Posted by JJP

Mom's Command progeny: http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/moms+command

I would much rather have seen Inside Information get in.... hopefully next year..

Here she is demolishing another brilliant filly, Sky Beauty... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36IXhzvg5mg

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

In a hypothetical match race at 9 furlongs....

Would Best Pal at age seven with Garret Gomez be able to beat Best Pal at age four before the injury?

wow, good question, probably, especially when corey black was riding him.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If Corey Black was the other rider? easy

heck, I did not see your post and made the same exact comment!

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

I would much rather have seen Inside Information get in.... hopefully next year..

Here she is demolishing another brilliant filly, Sky Beauty... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36IXhzvg5mg

me too, under appreciated filly is II.