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Rootdog1 05-25-2007 02:53 PM

when and where did Mulhall say Running Free didnt want the 1.5M? I thought the same thing about Ring, LONE speed.....

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 02:55 PM

Scavs....what do you got for the TG sheets for that race?

Also, does Brooker stand out in the TG the way he does on the Bris form?

thanks

Late Fires 05-25-2007 02:57 PM

The quote's in this article, Root:

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=25604

Ring does appear to be lone speed and the lone winner at the distance, but wheeling back in two weeks scares me

Late Fires 05-25-2007 02:58 PM

And I'm still learning the TG sheets, but it does appear that Brooker stands out if he can pair his top.

Scav 05-25-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
Scavs....what do you got for the TG sheets for that race?

Also, does Brooker stand out in the TG the way he does on the Bris form?

thanks

Ring is no where near the numbers that the 2 and 4 have been running. I would consider singling the 4 but I just can't. I don't like anyone else in that race. Another thing is I had going more then 2 deep in a 5 horse race, just think I can handicap good enough and project the race to get it down to two horses, and those horses should finish 1-2.....obviously it doesn't happen that way but these races, for me at least, it works best for me to literally run the race through my head and I actually draw an oval and put where I think each horse will be at start and end of each turn.....

Yes Brooker does stand out BUT I think it is a race where there are a couple that could run lights out, like the 8...I am 1,6,7,8 in that race

Scav 05-25-2007 03:02 PM

My ticket right now
 
Here is the official ticket for tonight

3: 3
4: 2,3,4,7
5: 6,7,8
6: 1,4,6,7,8
7: 4
8: 4,5,9,10

$480

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Ring is no where near the numbers that the 2 and 4 have been running. I would consider singling the 4 but I just can't. I don't like anyone else in that race. Another thing is I had going more then 2 deep in a 5 horse race, just think I can handicap good enough and project the race to get it down to two horses, and those horses should finish 1-2.....obviously it doesn't happen that way but these races, for me at least, it works best for me to literally run the race through my head and I actually draw an oval and put where I think each horse will be at start and end of each turn.....

Yes Brooker does stand out BUT I think it is a race where there are a couple that could run lights out, like the 8...I am 1,6,7,8 in that race

I am scared of the 8, he did comeback into a tough race down the hill at SA....I am torn between using the 8 or the 2..........

Scav 05-25-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
I am scared of the 8, he did comeback into a tough race down the hill at SA....I am torn between using the 8 or the 2..........

2 was a last cut for me, Mullins hasn't been that hot....

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Undecided if I am playing it

3: 3
4: 1,3,5,7
5: 6,7,8
6: 1,6,7,8
7: 2,4
8: 4,5,9

$576


I like that ticket.....deeper then I am thinking the 8th....and I am still not sure I am singling the 3 in the 3rd.....might use the 1 also. The 5th scares me...if any first timers can run that one could be wide open

Late Fires 05-25-2007 03:10 PM

To me, the 6 in the 5th race, the 7 in the 6th race and the 4 in the last race all seemed like possible singles (albeit scary ones). I was thinking about playing one ticket with those singled and the other races deep:


1,2,3,4,5/1,2,3,5,7/6/7/1,2,4,5/4 = $200

And a backup with a little more coverage in some of the races I singled in the first ticket:

1,3/3/2,6,7,8/5,6,7/4/4,10 = $96

Of course, I probably have these poorly organized, leading to 5 out of 6, like I did on Wednesday, so help is always appreciated.

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
The quote's in this article, Root:

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=25604

Ring does appear to be lone speed and the lone winner at the distance, but wheeling back in two weeks scares me


WOW.........that is telling....

Scav 05-25-2007 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
I like that ticket.....deeper then I am thinking the 8th....and I am still not sure I am singling the 3 in the 3rd.....might use the 1 also. The 5th scares me...if any first timers can run that one could be wide open

The TG numbers on the 6 and 8 LAY over what any of these horses are likely to run first out, which is why I am that way. I think the 7 could pop, and honestly, would rather not use her, but I have the cash so what the hell.....

Late Fires 05-25-2007 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
WOW.........that is telling....

Yep, Free Thinking was my top choice until I saw that (just don't like Super Strut all that much, but he seems like the tallest midget now).

Scav 05-25-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Yep, Free Thinking was my top choice until I saw that (just don't like Super Strut all that much, but he seems like the tallest midget now).

I agree, I am tossing him, that is crap....

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 03:36 PM

Here is where I am so far

3)1,3
4)2,3,7
5)3,6,7,8,9
6)2,6,7
7)1,4
8)4
$360

Second Ticket
3)3
4)2,7
5)1,3,4,6,7,8,9
6)6,7
7)4
8)4
$56

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 04:00 PM

I cannot use Running Free. Outstanding record over the surface BUT It looks like his best days are behind him. 0 for 9 the past two years.

If anyone in the race can upset, it definitely is Stephen Bruce. I just don't see him relishing the extra distance.

I'm sticking with Super Strut, who has been on a dry spell as well. The addition of Nakatani and the Dollase barn catching fire this meet force me to use this one as a single and hope like hell he comes through.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-25-2007 05:38 PM

ill take a stab thou my head is not really in it ..

race 3 2/3/5

race 4 1/5/7

race 5 3,6,8

race 6 7

race 8 5

race 9 2/9/10 good luck h

ArlJim78 05-25-2007 05:47 PM

here we go,

Race 3) 3
Race 4) 2 3
Race 5) 2 6 8
Race 6) 2 4 6 7
Race 7) 2 4
Race 8) 4 10

$192

Bigsmc 05-25-2007 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I think Nakatani can get the hat trick (5,6,7).

I agree with Phil that the 4 will be tough in the finale BUT Son Montuno scares the sh.it out of me. Especially when you consider Lobo's ROI at the meet.

I'm not leaving him off.

Bigsmc 05-25-2007 06:30 PM

Okay, here we go.....

Race 3
2 - Bosset
3 - Double Trouble

Race 4
2 - Tom West
3 - Gary John
4 - Soul Work

Race 5
2 - Kula Girl
6 - Chocolate Lava

Race 6
6 - Datticus
7 - Brooker

Race 7
4 - Super Strut

Race 8
3 - Beware (Yes Scav, Osman Cedeno on my ticket again).
4 - Social Satire
10 - Son Motuno

2 x 3 x 2 x 2 x 1 x 3 = $72 x $2 = $144

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 06:50 PM

Ok here is my El Cheapo ticket. Still deciding if I want to play my serious ticket or not. Leaning against due to my confidence in the sequence and the $1 guarantee on Monday.

1,3
2,4,7
6
7
4
4,10

Bigsmc 05-25-2007 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Ok here is my El Cheapo ticket. Still deciding if I want to play my serious ticket or not. Leaning against due to my confidence in the sequence and the $1 guarantee on Monday.

1,3
2,4,7
6
7
4
4,10

Good luck PP, Friday nights have not treated me well so far this meet, so I am focusing on Monday too.

NTamm1215 05-25-2007 07:02 PM

Here's a little analysis to go on with the ticket. To be quite honest with all of you I'm a bit more intrigued by the late Pick 4 especially if a lot of tickets are knocked out in races 3 and 4, meaning a bunch of money will get poured into the late 4. You could end up seeing a 1.5 mil pool in the PK6 and 500k in the PK4. I just hope one of us can tag something big again.

RACE 3

I think this is a three horse race and its quite conceivable that Frankel's horse gets downed. I have every reason to think BOSSET will fire a big shot in here. Improved figure last time out and seems to have an affinity for the Cushion Track. She should work out a nice trip should THRILL AFTER DARK get aggressive early. I also have a soft spot for FUN LOGIC after hitting her last year and I think she fits nicely into the race. Her late kick will be flattered by what I'm thinking should be honest fractions.
USE: 1,2,3- $3.60

RACE 4

While a repeat effort of GARY JOHN's last race wins this for fun, I'm unsure whether we'll see that. He's getting help on my ticket. I'm using GOTTA GETCHA who should improve considerably off an abysmal performance last time. I'm also giving a chance to TOM WEST not only because he's dropping in class but also because the turnback in distance could make him powerful in the stretch with the bug boy.
USE: 2,3,5- $19.20

RACE 5

Absolutely wide-open race. I think the fave goes off maybe 3-1 in here and it is easily the "make or break" race in the sequence. I love STEELIN' mostly because of his pedigree for the lawn. While Orientate is not the best sire ever, the Carson City on the dam side is very positive. Dollase is also white-hot at the meet and is a must-use in here. I like firster HENNESSY ROSE and CHOCOLATE LAVA, the latter because of what I think was a terrible ride last time and the former because of sneaky good turf breeding and a trainer who's not the best around but can pop with a debut runner.
USE: 6,7,8

RACE 6

Despite being a wide-open race I think it's BROOKER's to lose. His figs tower over this talented bunch and I'm going to use him and WIND WATER who might get a nice trip behind the speed breaking from the rail. Could have been the winner last time had he not spotted the front-runners lengths right from the opening bell. He ended up switching out for the stretch drive and cutting into the winner's edge with each stride.
USE: 1,7

RACE 7

The single has to come somewhere and it's gonna be SUPER STRUT for me. He is really the only horse who has an edge going the distance because RING OF FRIENDSHIP is so clearly not the horse who wired the Cal Cup Starter Handicap in 2004. Hopefully that one will set a good pace and Nakatani can shake out of his current funk to win the Quicken Tree.
USE: 4

RACE 8

SOCIAL SATIRE absolutely should not lose but I learned a long time ago that no one can pop with a price better than Paulo Lobo. SON MONTUNO should be wound much tighter for start #3 than he was for either of his first two. His outside post could allow for a nice stalking trip and a surprise in the nightcap.
USE: 4,10

THE TICKET: 1,2,3/2,3,5/6,7,8/1,7/4/4,10

TOTAL: $216

I may spend a bit less in the Pick 4 but cover more bases. Here's a ticket for that:

1,6,7,8,9,12
1,6,7,8
4
2,4,10

TOTAL: $72

Hopefully it'll be a Friday night under the lights to remember for $288.

Good luck to all and let's do our best to make sure many DTers take down the Holly Pick 6 in one week!

NT

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Good luck PP, Friday nights have not treated me well so far this meet, so I am focusing on Monday too.

Good luck to you too, Bigs.

pmacdaddy 05-25-2007 07:05 PM

Looking to play small ticket for Fri night action.

Hope you don't mind, but I am looking at somewhat of a Bigsmc/Scavs/Roots (Short Ticket) overlap play. Didn't really look at HOL. Probably better than I could do anyway...

3 / 2,4,7 / 6,7 / 6,7 / 4 / 4,5,9
$72

Good Luck!!

Scav 05-25-2007 08:09 PM

I might be including Cedeno also. Lobo has been untouchable this meet

UM NO....the 10 is who I was talking about. Keep on betting Cedeno. Dig me up when he wins a race

-BT- 05-25-2007 08:37 PM

R3) PK6

3/34/46789/1467/24/49 = $320

23/34/678/1/4/4 = $24

13/35/68/7/24/4 = $32

2/45/78/16/2/49 = $32



gl to all who play tonights PK6


-bt-

Scav 05-25-2007 08:42 PM

For editing purposes-ticket has been played
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
3: 3
4: 2,3,4,7
5: 6,7,8
6: 1,4,6,7,8
7: 4
8: 4,5,9,10

$480

3: 3 = 3 = $3.60
4: 2,3,4,7 = **** - I didn't like the 3 and got sucked into him
5: 6,7,8
6: 1,4,6,7,8
7: 4
8: 4,5,9,10

docicu3 05-25-2007 08:43 PM

Final ticket

3 1,3 (2,5) B ticket

4 2,3,7

5 2,6,8,10

6 2,6,7

7 1 (4) B ticket

8 4,6,10

Good luck all

Scav 05-25-2007 08:52 PM

Good luck to all tonight....LETS GET IT DONE

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 09:51 PM

final tickets

3)3
4)2,3,7
5)3,6,7,8,11
6)2,6,7
7)2,4
8)4,9
$360

3)1
4)2,7
5)1,4,6,7,8,9
6)7
7)1,4
8)4
$48

Scav 05-25-2007 09:58 PM

Tell you right now, if we can beat this 3 in the next race, this thing could PAY

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 10:01 PM

in which race? the 4th? My top selection is the 7 in the 4th...I do not like the 4, but he scares me enough to use him

pgardn 05-25-2007 10:07 PM

Heart in throat for a bit there boys.
Alive. Good to be alive.

-BT- 05-25-2007 10:08 PM

Brice was pretty confident half way down the lane didn't see him use the stick once, he was a lot more confident then i was about getting that 3-5 shot home...... all who's in, let's keep rolling!

-bt-

Rootdog1 05-25-2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
My guess is that the connections, probably owners, didnt like the way he was on the lead in that last race they opted to go elsewhere....I do not think it was Talamos call. He and Frankel were joined at the hip winning at a 50% clip for a while at the FG and at Santa Anita so it is rather strange.

I think this was right.....Blanc was up to bring him from off the pace. AH, Blanc just said Bobby was upset with the fact she was on the lead last time out.............So, I was right

Scav 05-25-2007 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1
I think this was right.....Blanc was up to bring him from off the pace. AH, Blanc just said Bobby was upset with the fact she was on the lead last time out.............So, I was right

Root, look at the quote from above. I HAD THIS FRIGGIN 5 horse....****

philcski 05-25-2007 10:38 PM

now that baze fuc'd my tickets, here's what it was:
1,2,3/3/2,4,6,7,8,12/1,7/4,5/4
3/4/6,7,8/1,7/4,5/4
3/3,4/6,7,8/2,3,6/4,5/4
3/3,4/6,7,8/1,7/1,2/4

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 10:39 PM

I tossed the ****in 5 and was using him on my initial ticket. SOB me.

Scav 05-25-2007 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I tossed the ****in 5 and was using him on my initial ticket. SOB me.

I am in that club now....such an idiot I am


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