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byalip 04-12-2007 04:44 PM

Let me chime in with this observation:

This female stripper was near the lowest rung of our society: poor, black, single mother, uneducated (but trying), and most importantly, a stripper. Put it all together and you get an individual who most likely has few defense mechanisms.

She shows up at this private party as a stripper for hire. There was no bodyguard, as is the usual, to maintain order. Thus, she was really scraping the barrel doing this job.

As a female, I find it REPUGNANT to know that a bunch of college boys would willingly use this pathetic human being for their own amusement. God only knows what went on there....but we know it wasn't rape.

Nifong had a duty to investigate and protect both the students and this pathetic woman. In no way am I excusing her--no matter what her circumstances she has no right to lie.

But, this should be a warning to everyone about treating people with dignity. Just because you CAN exploit someone (because of you income, gender or circumstances) you need to remind yourself that everyone deserves respect.

I'm telling you...something went on in that house. It wasnt' rape. But it wasn't pretty either.

byalip 04-12-2007 06:58 PM

Very amusing, in a Neanderthal kind of way.

Seriously, I wish you knew what it was like to be a female....just for 24 hours. All wise-cracks aside, the experience of being objectified by society would open your eyes.

paisjpq 04-12-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byalip
Let me chime in with this observation:

This female stripper was near the lowest rung of our society: poor, black, single mother, uneducated (but trying), and most importantly, a stripper. Put it all together and you get an individual who most likely has few defense mechanisms.

She shows up at this private party as a stripper for hire. There was no bodyguard, as is the usual, to maintain order. Thus, she was really scraping the barrel doing this job.

As a female, I find it REPUGNANT to know that a bunch of college boys would willingly use this pathetic human being for their own amusement. God only knows what went on there....but we know it wasn't rape.

Nifong had a duty to investigate and protect both the students and this pathetic woman. In no way am I excusing her--no matter what her circumstances she has no right to lie.

But, this should be a warning to everyone about treating people with dignity. Just because you CAN exploit someone (because of you income, gender or circumstances) you need to remind yourself that everyone deserves respect.

I'm telling you...something went on in that house. It wasnt' rape. But it wasn't pretty either.


well said.

somerfrost 04-12-2007 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byalip
Let me chime in with this observation:

This female stripper was near the lowest rung of our society: poor, black, single mother, uneducated (but trying), and most importantly, a stripper. Put it all together and you get an individual who most likely has few defense mechanisms.

She shows up at this private party as a stripper for hire. There was no bodyguard, as is the usual, to maintain order. Thus, she was really scraping the barrel doing this job.

As a female, I find it REPUGNANT to know that a bunch of college boys would willingly use this pathetic human being for their own amusement. God only knows what went on there....but we know it wasn't rape.

Nifong had a duty to investigate and protect both the students and this pathetic woman. In no way am I excusing her--no matter what her circumstances she has no right to lie.

But, this should be a warning to everyone about treating people with dignity. Just because you CAN exploit someone (because of you income, gender or circumstances) you need to remind yourself that everyone deserves respect.

I'm telling you...something went on in that house. It wasnt' rape. But it wasn't pretty either.



I also agree! I was gonna start down this road but figured I had stirred the waters enough...it connects to my point about "equality" remaining a bad joke in our society. I think I have some idea what happened in that house but hopefully, as the remarks of the one Duke player seemed to indicate, some eyes were opened. When people are dehumanized, they become easy targets...a lesson history has tried to teach us again and again!

timmgirvan 04-12-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by byalip
Very amusing, in a Neanderthal kind of way.

Seriously, I wish you knew what it was like to be a female....just for 24 hours. All wise-cracks aside, the experience of being objectified by society would open your eyes.

Baba is a neanderthal:) and I agree with your point! From the bulimic runway models to the cheerleaders to prom queens and young people just trying to find their way and true identity are sucked in by constant ads for the next great thing..whether it's a new youth serum or a new way to take away all your pain....it is a tragedy to watch.

timmgirvan 04-12-2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bababooyee
No, thanks! I have enough problems as it is (I got 99 problems but being a....).

And, as a Neanderthal, don't you think I am objectified by society?!?!?

No...you're QUANTIFIED by society!:D Baba: you may want to talk with the Gieco caveman...I hear he has a gig coming up!

brianwspencer 04-12-2007 10:59 PM

Michelle Malkin hosted the O'Reilly Factor tonight, and spoke with Mr. Shabazz who is involved with the New Black Panthers.

It was explosive, and indicative of everything I've been saying about this in the last two days:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/1...helle-hosting/

Second video down. It's priceless. She's great.

GPK 04-12-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Michelle Malkin hosted the O'Reilly Factor tonight, and spoke with Mr. Shabazz who is involved with the New Black Panthers.

It was explosive, and indicative of everything I've been saying about this in the last two days:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/1...helle-hosting/

Second video down. It's priceless. She's great.


"over 1,600,000 black women have been sexually assaulted and raped by white men since we came over on slave ships..."

WTF??? was some kinda of poll conducted?

timmgirvan 04-12-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
"over 1,600,000 black women have been sexually assaulted and raped by white men since we came over on slave ships..."

WTF??? was some kinda of poll conducted?

Kev/Brian: don't even need the clip to tell...Shabazz is the next threat to peace racewise,imho!(In MyHumbleOpinion....not I'm a Ho):D

brianwspencer 04-12-2007 11:15 PM

Clearly Shabazz is an idiot. Quote of my week: "You're going to call me a whore on national television?!" - Michelle Malkin

You could see her drooling over it. For as bleeding heart as I may be sometimes, I find her incredibly realistic on her blog and in her appearances.

Cajungator26 04-12-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
"over 1,600,000 black women have been sexually assaulted and raped by white men since we came over on slave ships..."

WTF??? was some kinda of poll conducted?

LOL Kevin!

brianwspencer 04-12-2007 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
"over 1,600,000 black women have been sexually assaulted and raped by white men since we came over on slave ships..."

WTF??? was some kinda of poll conducted?

The best part was when she quoted one of the Black Panthers telling one of the accused that he was a "dead man walking," and he all of the sudden wanted proof and citations.....shortly after making that claim.

Anyone?

Cajungator26 04-12-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
The best part was when she quoted one of the Black Panthers telling one of the accused that he was a "dead man walking," and he all of the sudden wanted proof and citations.....shortly after making that claim.

Anyone?

Brian, I've been thinking... and I really think you should change your signature line to read:

"Scat Daddy will run 1st in the Kentucky Derby." You dig, darlin?

somerfrost 04-12-2007 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
The best part was when she quoted one of the Black Panthers telling one of the accused that he was a "dead man walking," and he all of the sudden wanted proof and citations.....shortly after making that claim.

Anyone?


Is Shabazz related to Malcolm X? I know his wife's name was Betty Shabazz as I recall...

brianwspencer 04-12-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Brian, I've been thinking... and I really think you should change your signature line to read:

"Scat Daddy will run 1st in the Kentucky Derby." You dig, darlin?

Well I want to give myself a better chance of being right than of being wrong, so I cannot change it.

brianwspencer 04-12-2007 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost
Is Shabazz related to Malcolm X? I know his wife's name was Betty Shabazz as I recall...

Couldn't say, but he's a serious tool with absolutely nothing to offer to public discourse :)

Cajungator26 04-12-2007 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Well I want to give myself a better chance of being right than of being wrong, so I cannot change it.

Oh well, it didn't hurt to ask. Believe me, when he crosses that finish line first on May 5th, your number will be the FIRST I dial. LMAO :D

brianwspencer 04-12-2007 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Oh well, it didn't hurt to ask. Believe me, when he crosses that finish line first on May 5th, your number will be the FIRST I dial. LMAO :D

And my pick-4 will be the first to detonate.

I'd use him underneath, but not in the top spot on any ticket, nope.

Cajungator26 04-12-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
And my pick-4 will be the first to detonate.

LMAO!!! Fair enough.

saucon17 04-12-2007 11:26 PM

Know what would be a perfect world is giving the Black Panthers
and the KKK all the weapons and guns. Then put them on a remote
island together so they can blow each others F ing brains apart so
they can eradicate each other. How nice would that be. That would
solve a lot of problems in the USA. Do bad this won't happenn


Just watching the replay of "The Factor" Malkin is great
she needs her own show.

brianwspencer 04-12-2007 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
Know what would be a perfect world is giving the Black Panthers
and the KKK all the weapons and guns. Then put them on a remote
island together so they can blow each others F ing brains apart so
they can eradicate each other. How nice would that be. That would
solve a lot of problems in the USA. Do bad this won't happenn


Just watching the replay of "The Factor" Malkin is great
she needs her own show.

You know, I don't like her sometimes, but I like her most times.

Funny thing is I wrote her an email tonight saying EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

saucon17 04-12-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
You know, I don't like her sometimes, but I like her most times.

Funny thing is I wrote her an email tonight saying EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

I like her because she seems reasonable a lot of topics. Like you said I
don't agree with some her view points. She is just a breath of fresh air.

somerfrost 04-12-2007 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I like her because she seems reasonable a lot of topics. Like you said I
don't agree with some her view points. She is just a breath of fresh air.


I listened to the Shabazz interview...I agree this guy is a fanatic and offers nothing to the debate. His attitude does illustrate the problem of mistrust of our legal system due to past abuses though. While Shabazz obviously has an agenda, this is an issue that must be overcome!

timmgirvan 04-12-2007 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost
I listened to the Shabazz interview...I agree this guy is a fanatic and offers nothing to the debate. His attitude does illustrate the problem of mistrust of our legal system due to past abuses though. While Shabazz obviously has an agenda, this is an issue that must be overcome!

Somer: I read John Grishams' THE INNOCENT MAN recently. It was a true story of miscarraige of justice and the abuses of the legal system. You might enjoy it.

somerfrost 04-12-2007 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Somer: I read John Grishams' THE INNOCENT MAN recently. It was a true story of miscarraige of justice and the abuses of the legal system. You might enjoy it.

Thanks Timm, I'll check it out!

IrishofNDMan 04-13-2007 12:13 AM

We will make sure those Rich White Boys don't get away with rape!


WHAT A FRIGGIN IDIOT!

timmgirvan 04-13-2007 03:41 AM

Brian: Michelle Malkin has her own website....called HotAir.com. fyi

brianwspencer 04-13-2007 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Brian: Michelle Malkin has her own website....called HotAir.com. fyi

Yea, and her own blog at Michellemalkin.com -- I read them both with regularity, believe it or not. I can't stand reading most conservative blogs and stick to my liberal ones. but hers is one I read daily.

ddthetide 04-14-2007 10:29 PM

sharpton and jackson got Imus off the air BUT when do the Duke Lacrosse players and team get THEIR apology???
they upset UVa today, does that make headlines? doesn't the Duke team deserve the same headlines that the RU ladies got for their semi-final victory?

Danzig 04-15-2007 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byalip
Let me chime in with this observation:

This female stripper was near the lowest rung of our society: poor, black, single mother, uneducated (but trying), and most importantly, a stripper. Put it all together and you get an individual who most likely has few defense mechanisms.

She shows up at this private party as a stripper for hire. There was no bodyguard, as is the usual, to maintain order. Thus, she was really scraping the barrel doing this job.

As a female, I find it REPUGNANT to know that a bunch of college boys would willingly use this pathetic human being for their own amusement. God only knows what went on there....but we know it wasn't rape.

Nifong had a duty to investigate and protect both the students and this pathetic woman. In no way am I excusing her--no matter what her circumstances she has no right to lie.

But, this should be a warning to everyone about treating people with dignity. Just because you CAN exploit someone (because of you income, gender or circumstances) you need to remind yourself that everyone deserves respect.

I'm telling you...something went on in that house. It wasnt' rape. But it wasn't pretty either.

in the last couple of weeks at work, i had two separate incidents on work sites that indicated that men still tend to look to women for one thing....

and then a guy at work, who also is a minister, told me i should understand things like these will happen as long as i work around men!

yikes. thank goodness i know these are isolation incidents, and that most men can exert self-control.

i also think those of us who say we should all be equal truly believe that, and thus feel that everyone thinks that way as well. it's always dammed depressing to find that not everyone shares that view.

byalip 04-15-2007 12:54 PM

Of course the vast majority are decent.

I guess some work climates or situations breed bad behavior. You get a couple of loud mouths who have an agenda, and they can intimidate the rest of the group to mimic their behavior. It takes a real man to stand up to that.

Just keep thinking about your wife, daughter, sister, mom, etc. How would it be if they were the target of bad behavior.

Mortimer 04-15-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by byalip
Of course the vast majority are decent.

I guess some work climates or situations breed bad behavior. You get a couple of loud mouths who have an agenda, and they can intimidate the rest of the group to mimic their behavior. It takes a real man to stand up to that.

Just keep thinking about your wife, daughter, sister, mom, etc. How would it be if they were the target of bad behavior.

Don't forget about all the abuse I take ...yet still remain quite snappy in nature.


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