I can't see how Liquidity can be considered, stamina is an issue with him.

NO--Teuf and Sedg both may get into the Derby NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That is good, auto tossed and some moran's will be using them, both will be 99/1 though

teuflesberg has as much business running there as i would!

Well don't keep us in suspense.

i don't think i'd get enough of a weight break.

What you did not see is his race prior to the Florida Derby. He had even a worse trip and yet re-rallied to win it in style. In that ALW race at gulfstream he was bumped pretty good and shuffled from 5th to last at the half mile pole and made a nice rally weaving in-n-out to win it. That was the reason I made a huge win/place bet on him in the Florida Derby. He was tucked nicely inside and was waiting for some room he never could get. He still switched to the outside to make a nice effort to come third.

I haven't heard anything about him but I highly doubt Sedgefield goes. . . The connections have Dominican in for sure and they know he's got a much better chance than Sedge on dirt. . . Sedgefield's last start was very disappointing and it was on his best surface. . . Unfortunately I think Belgravia or Joe Got even could knock out Chelokee. . .

Is Jack Junior being pointed to the derby? I didn't think he was but thedowneyprofile.com still has him on their earnings list and they've been taking horses off that have been confirmed to be off the trail. . .

Graded Stakes Earnings List (Latest):

1 Street Sense $1,482,000 Carl Nafzger
2 Scat Daddy $1,308,500 Todd Pletcher
3 Circular Quay $1,116,134 Todd Pletcher
4 Curlin $780,000 Steve Asmussen
5 Nobiz Like Shobiz $778,500 Barclay Tagg
6 Great Hunter $752,500 Doug O'Neill
7 Stormello $642,900 William Currin
8 Dominican $498,484 Darrin Miller
9 Tiago $450,000 John Shirreffs
10 Cowtown Cat $437,253 Todd Pletcher
11 Hard Spun $360,000 Larry Jones
12 Storm in May $227,500 William Kaplan
13 Zanjero $205,000 Steve Asmussen
14 Slew's Tizzy $195,000 Greg Fox
15 Any Given Saturday $177,969 Todd Pletcher
16 Liquidity $161,200 Doug O'Neill
17 Cobalt Blue $150,000 Doug O'Neill
18 Sam P. $146,500 Todd Pletcher
19 Sedgefield $127,500 Darrin Miller
20 Teuflesberg $122,942 Jamie Sanders
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21 I'mawildandcrazyguy $104,000 Bill Kaplan
22 Chelokee $100,000 Michael Matz
23 Reporting for Duty $100,000 Steve Asmussen
24 Bold Start $85,000 Ken McPeek
25 Delightful Kiss $83,000 Pete Anderson

Hockey.

Don't think he is.. Meehan called him doubtful a few weeks ago..

ESPN said wildcrazyguy has 104,000 in earnings

Might want to add XCHANGER to the list.

I saw his win at Pimlico in the Tesio yesterday and he looked pretty sharp in getting it done. His owners want to go - Shuman, prior to yesterday, felt he was a cut below. The Tesio might have changed his mind, assuming the horse comes back from the race ok. I don't think the effort took anything out of him because he was an easy handride the last 1/8th.

If Ramon is available to ride, I think you'll see him the first Sat in May.

You know ,Steve, I have always been a large admirer of your fine work.





What are your thoughts regarding the 8 weeks for OClay and in general...SamP?..... and also if you have any feelings on lol lol lol.


Thanks in advance.

If Xchanger goes in the Derby it will be the owners forcing it and over the objections of Shuman. Here he is Friday with me on ATRAB:

http://www.attheracesandbeyond.com/stream/42007b.mp3

And Dominguez has committed to Pletcher on Sam P.

Steve?

Steve is busy, so i'll answer about "lol lol lol" I saw him work the other day. looked GREAT on the track. Worked a mile in 1 minute 29 seconds flat in hand with his regular exercise rider G.F. Yokum, Jr. ( nickname GFY ) His coat was dappled, a fine animal indeed. The owners say they will skip the derby and train right up to the Breeder's Cup Classic where he should be installed as the 2:5 ML Favorite ahead of In- va - soooor.

Oh really?

Well what state and what county was this in?





And I just know you have the name of the sherrif there.

MDF,

I was worried that there was a 'real' issue with CircQuay when Pletcher passed on the Wood, but his subsequent works say he's fine. The effort in the Louisiana Derby was a huge career best, and the chances of him running back to it with a race in the interim weren't good. Pletcher is well aware of how much time it takes a horse to recover from an effort like that, and I also understand thatr Angel Cordero was pushing to skip the Wood. Basically I'm more concerned about the pace set-up not being to Circular Quay's advantage than I am about the 8 weeks...

Sam P. is a 'nice' horse that really hasn't moved forward at all at three. He was too close to the Santa Anita Derby pace to be effective and think he'll get his run in Derby Day. And remember that Ramon Dominguez rode Bluegrass Cat last year and gets the call on Sam P. I'd guess his best races come later in the year and would say he is a use in the Derby only on the bottom of the widest trifecta and superfecta plays.

As for Lol Lol Lol, the less we say here the better if we expect to pull off the betting coup we are all hoping for with him... her... it...

It's amazing to me how much we think alike,Steve.


I appreciate your time here,although I'm not so sure what you said about lol lol lol .We shall see.




Sightseeing is defnitely not running....right?

Suddenly, Teufelsberg on fence...

With the possible inclusions of Xchanger, Slew's Tizzy and Sedgefield in the Derby, Teufelsberg now sitting 21st...

ALSO.. Chelokee is likely NOT running even if the path were to be cleared for him.. Ran off 2.5 miles over the weekend and has a small hoof issue as well, and Matz does not want to waste or ruin him with a Derby try...

Sedgefield leaning towards a run; Slew's Tizzy appears 50-50; No word on Xchanger as of this afternoon..


Graded Stakes Earnings List (B-H):

1 Street Sense $1,482,000
2 Scat Daddy $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay $1,116,134
4 Curlin $780,000
5 Nobiz Like Shobiz $778,500
6 Great Hunter $752,500
7 Stormello $642,900
8 Dominican $498,484
9 Tiago $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat $437,253
11 Hard Spun $360,000
12 Storm in May $227,500
13 Slew's Tizzy $207,500
14 Zanjero $205,000
15 Xchanger $202,890
16 Any Given Saturday $177,969
17 Liquidity $161,200
18 Cobalt Blue $150,000
19 Sam P. $146,500
20 Sedgefield $127,500
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21 Teuflesberg $122,942
22 Imawildandcrazyguy $104,000
23 Chelokee $100,000 DOUBTFUL..
24 Reporting for Duty $100,000
25 Starbase $93,106
26 Delightful Kiss $83,000

VERY happy to see Matz doing the right thing by the horse. :) Love him.

I would also love to see Slew's Tizzy take a shot at the Preakness and not run back in two weeks. He is a beauty and I don't want him ruined. I would also like to have them try him on the grass...

Kentucky Derby website updated a bit with more contenders...

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2007/derby_contenders

I've got to think that Kev will be blowing a few bucks on the full brother to English Channel. :p

Are you saying he ran off for 2.5 miles, or he galloped 2.5 miles?

This may seem like a real dumb question, but what does it mean when someone states a horse "ran off"? Is this when the jockey is thrown and the horse bolts around the track all out?

When a horse runs off, it typically means that the horse was out of control (bit between the teeth.) I'm assuming that's what happened in this case... I can't see Chelokee running loose without a rider for that long without being caught, but I could be wrong. ???

Oh my God.






You should take a closer look at lol lol lol then.

Chelokee's rein broke and the ride was not able to stop him

OH my GOD.

Is there an echo in here?



What is your primary malfunction,ma'am?

Nothing, just knew you'd actually respond.

Thanks... that must have sucked sitting on him for that kind of ride.

Oh.





Try yelling STEVIE!!!!!
It worked for me.

Like the PPs are going to change??


You're not one of those hung up on post position..are ya?

The winner comes out of the 9 hole this year!