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Coach Pants 03-29-2007 05:08 PM

He'll never run a race and he'll prefer stallions over mares.

Cannon Shell 03-29-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
He'll never run a race and he'll prefer stallions over mares.

PointGiven1985?

Coach Pants 03-29-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
PointGiven1985?

Zing!

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
I think being 21 and 22 is maybe a little bit younger than the rest. I have been posting on horse racing message boards since I was 18, I started on ESPN with most people and made the change over here.

eh, been there too. knew a bunch of these people at espn back when i started in college, had to be about five years ago.

yes you'll catch some **** about being the "young punk," i did, and in some forums, still do. but 99% of the time, you'll catch **** for what you say instead of how old you are.

and you get the Irish bonus too :D

Danzig 03-29-2007 07:32 PM

still not quite sure what disagreeing with someone's opinion has to do with LIKING them! what, you guys always agree one hundred percent with your friends you hang out with??

blackthroatedwind 03-29-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
still not quite sure what disagreeing with someone's opinion has to do with LIKING them! what, you guys always agree one hundred percent with your friends you hang out with??


It's merely a cry for attention.....nothing more.

Holland Hacker 03-29-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Did Mark Beech write the story?

Yes it was written by Mark Beech. the Article was titled "Monkey See, Monkey Dont The costliest racehorse ever has been a huge bust"

blackthroatedwind 03-29-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
Yes it was written by Mark Beech. the Article was titled "Monkey See, Monkey Dont The costliest racehorse ever has been a huge bust"


Thanks.

pgardn 03-29-2007 08:16 PM

I personally am extremely happy with what has happened with this horse so far. A healthy happy failure. We can only hope his offspring, if there are any, will also be happy pasture horses. I see this as good for the breeding game as a whole, a better reflection of the crap shoot genetics can be. Makes people think a bit more.

Coach Pants 03-29-2007 08:55 PM

This thread is a massive failure of epic proportions. And really that's fitting considering it's a thread about the Green Monkey.

blackthroatedwind 03-29-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
This thread is a massive failure of epic proportions. And really that's fitting considering it's a thread about the Green Monkey.


It certainly isn't Grade 1 material.

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
This thread is a massive failure of epic proportions. And really that's fitting considering it's a thread about the Green Monkey.

I think that everything from post #28 on should be deleted.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Sorry, but this " be nice " foolishness, or people whining they are getting " picked on", is all a bunch of sanctimonious crap. There are plenty of people with EDUCATED good opinions around here that frequently differ, and through that we get some interesting debate, but NOBODY should have to apologize or feel bad for making light of uneducated and indefensible opinions ( most likely only posted to attempt to draw attention to that poster ).

Be nice? Phuck that. I say, argue away, because that's what helps people learn, but enter the fray at your own risk.

your correct! i dont care what anyone says about me, its just some ppl take it to another level.....say what you want about my posts, thats what this place is for, i belive he will win a grade 1, very possibly sprinting, thats my opinion, what is the problem, but i will say every opinion i make is educated, lets all sit here and bash a 16million doller horse that hasent even ran yet, this guy could come to the track in the next few months, break his maiden by many many lenghts, then 1-2 starts later could be in a grade 1

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 09:07 PM

also i'd like to meet all of you guys who bash me this summer at saratoga i promise if you spend a day with me alot of stuff would be cleared up, especially the **** about how much i do and dont bet

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I just fell off my chair laughing.

lol

Grits 03-29-2007 09:08 PM

Trust me, the two pages I mentioned in the other one--they'd never be missed. Not a chance.

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I think that everything from post #28 on should be deleted.


Coach Pants 03-29-2007 09:09 PM

O Darwin, where art thou?

randallscott35 03-29-2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
also i'd like to meet all of you guys who bash me this summer at saratoga i promise if you spend a day with me alot of stuff would be cleared up, especially the **** about how much i do and dont bet

Dom, this isn't a pissing contest here. No one worries about what people bet....Green Monkey will actually be running in the Travers so you will be able to see him win his Grade 1 I'm sure.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Dom, this isn't a pissing contest here. No one worries about what people bet....Green Monkey will actually be running in the Travers so you will be able to see him win his Grade 1 I'm sure.

well i never ever intended it to be a pissing contest but im 100 percent sure that i dident start being unliked untill i started posting my picks and bets

Thoroughbred Fan 03-29-2007 09:12 PM

I simply asked if he was high when he posted that nonsense. I had good reason to think he might be. He made a statement that is as ridiculous as any I have ever seen posted here.

"What if he becomes the top freshman sire. What if he sires 3 KY Derby winners in his life. What if he sires 6 horses of the year."

A horse of less than stellar breeding. Forestry isn't a top stallion by statistics or any other measure. A horse who hasn't ever run farther than 1 furlong. An eighth of a mile. I guess if he can get healthy and they start writing 1f G1 races then he might have a chance. NOT AT ALL! No stallion that I know of has the credentials he has quoted.

I think the razing was deserved. I am all for having this place remain friendly, but we must continue to make sure it is also a place of quality information and not delusional rhetoric.

Coach Pants 03-29-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
well i never ever intended it to be a pissing contest but im 100 percent sure that i dident start being unliked untill i started posting

In total agreement.

blackthroatedwind 03-29-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
your correct! i dont care what anyone says about me, its just some ppl take it to another level.....say what you want about my posts, thats what this place is for, i belive he will win a grade 1, very possibly sprinting, thats my opinion, what is the problem, but i will say every opinion i make is educated, lets all sit here and bash a 16million doller horse that hasent even ran yet, this guy could come to the track in the next few months, break his maiden by many many lenghts, then 1-2 starts later could be in a grade 1


I'm coming upstate this weekend.....save me a bong hit.

randallscott35 03-29-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
well i never ever intended it to be a pissing contest but im 100 percent sure that i dident start being unliked untill i started posting my picks and bets

No one dislikes you. Seriously...Just post how you feel like posting and don't worry about it.

blackthroatedwind 03-29-2007 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
im 100 percent sure that i dident start being unliked untill i started posting my picks and bets


In all honesty, truer words have never been misspelled.

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
well i never ever intended it to be a pissing contest but im 100 percent sure that i dident start being unliked untill i started posting my picks and bets

or here:

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9646

What a classic.

randallscott35 03-29-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Yes, that one was a problem....Don't threaten to leave us again. Would be too much to bear.

Thoroughbred Fan 03-29-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
well i never ever intended it to be a pissing contest but im 100 percent sure that i dident start being unliked untill i started posting my picks and bets

It wasn't the picks. Everyone is welcome to post their picks, but to then tell us you make money is just lying.

miraja2 03-29-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i will say that he wins a grade 1 on the track....

My problem with this post is that you don't seem to realize quite how difficult winning a G1 race can be. Look at a horse like Sun King. He is a pretty good horse. In his life he has won two G2s, two G3s, and been on the board in seven G1s. But he has never won a G1. I think that if the Green Monkey ends up being as good as Sun King, we would all be pretty shocked at this point. But even if for some strange reason that does happen, it STILL doesn't mean that he is going to win a G1.
That, in my opinion, is one of the main reasons that your post will prove to be incorrect.

Coach Pants 03-29-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's a virus that's spread to me. I give my goodbye thread 5 rattlers considering the circumstances.

randallscott35 03-29-2007 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
My problem with this post is that you don't seem to realize quite how difficult winning a G1 race can be. Look at a horse like Sun King. He is a pretty good horse. In his life he has won two G2s, two G3s, and been on the board in seven G1s. But he has never won a G1. I think that if the Green Monkey ends up being as good as Sun King, we would all be pretty shocked at this point. But even if for some strange reason that does happen, it STILL doesn't mean that he is going to win a G1.
That, in my opinion, is one of the main reasons that your post will prove to be incorrect.

Does he ever break his maiden is a better question? I'd say it's less than 50/50.

paisjpq 03-29-2007 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
It's a virus that's spread to me. I give my goodbye thread 5 rattlers considering the circumstances.

methinks perhaps you have been hearing too much howard 101...5 rattles, not rattlers LMAO....

brianwspencer 03-29-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
methinks perhaps you have been hearing too much howard 101...5 rattles, not rattlers LMAO....

RICH.

pgardn 03-29-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
In all honesty, truer words have never been misspelled.

OUCh.

With a hearty snicker. If that had been tossed my way, I would give it a touche.

miraja2 03-29-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Does he ever break his maiden is a better question? I'd say it's less than 50/50.

Yeah I think people could have a legitimate discussion about whether they think he will ever break his maiden, although I am not sure exactly why anyone would want to have any sort of lengthy discussion about this colt.
Talking about whether he will ever win a G1 is like talking about whether or not I will ever defeat Tiger Woods in a golf tournament. Actually it is almost exactly like that, because I don't even play golf.....and this colt doesn't compete in races.

Coach Pants 03-29-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
methinks perhaps you have been hearing too much howard 101...5 rattles, not rattlers LMAO....

i got the mcgillicutty all up in my deal.

Thoroughbred Fan 03-29-2007 09:29 PM

This thread is having a longer career than the Green Monkey

POINTGIVEN1985 03-29-2007 09:33 PM

laugh it up guys.... im going to bed

miraja2 03-29-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
laugh it up guys.... im going to bed

I predict that when you wake up tomorrow.....you will be an astronaut. That is my opinion, but it is an educated opinion.
I make a lot of money predicting who will be astronauts.


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