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IrishofNDMan 02-05-2007 05:01 PM

I'm not gonna go crazy on this race, probably put $5-10 acrossed on Notional.

Sightseek 02-05-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The connections of Teuflesburg are ridiculous for even running that poor horse in this spot.

I agree, this really irritates me because they struck gold with this horse by only paying $7K and are hell-bent on ruining him. :mad: There are so many other ways to make money with a tough horse than stretching him out for your Derby dreams.

Pedigree Ann 02-06-2007 08:01 AM

My guess is that Circular Quay is going here instead of FLA or SoCal is the length of the FG stretch. Horse who closes the way CQ does needs every bit of stretch he can get.

As an aside, has anybody noticed in the simulcasts from South America how insanely long the final straights are there? Could explain why some big winners down there don't do as well up here - they are grinders who need that long stretch to get up speed and pass the field.

zippyneedsawin 02-06-2007 08:20 AM

CQ is the 9/5 morning line favorite... I added all the morning lines to the earlier post that lists the entire field.

Travis Stone 02-06-2007 08:28 AM

Notional is a good bet against with the outside post. Circular Quay is an okay bet against with it being his first start of the year.

There is no shortage of speed which makes me like the Calder shipper a bit. Imawildandcrazyguy came from six lengths off a 23 4/5 quarter, and 48 3/5 half to win by 10. Third horse came back to win. There are things to like there, and you cannot argue with finding a closer at a decent price in a race of speed.

Kasept 02-06-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Notional is a good bet against with the outside post. Circular Quay is an okay bet against with it being his first start of the year.

There is no shortage of speed which makes me like the Calder shipper a bit. Imawildandcrazyguy came from six lengths off a 23 4/5 quarter, and 48 3/5 half to win by 10. Third horse came back to win. There are things to like there, and you cannot argue with finding a closer at a decent price in a race of speed.

Vox,

Perhaps the best recco for Wildandcrazyguy is the performances of Bill Kaplan's other pair the last two weeks.. Kaplan's situation is the wildest and craziest on the Derby Trail. A relative unknown with a 12 horse barn and three with potential for Louisville. Based on Storm in May's and Drums of Thunder's efforts at GP, I'd expect another strong effort from this one at N'orleans Saturday. Kaplan thinks just as highly of him as the other two...

zippyneedsawin 02-06-2007 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Notional is a good bet against with the outside post. Circular Quay is an okay bet against with it being his first start of the year.

There is no shortage of speed which makes me like the Calder shipper a bit. Imawildandcrazyguy came from six lengths off a 23 4/5 quarter, and 48 3/5 half to win by 10. Third horse came back to win. There are things to like there, and you cannot argue with finding a closer at a decent price in a race of speed.


I can't imagine any other horse in the field is a better closer than CQ. But his likely short price and first run off the layoff, make him less than appealing as a win bet. I'd think you'll get a nice price on Imawildandcrazyguy.

lemoncrush 02-06-2007 09:13 AM

Haven't looked at the PPs, but if there is plenty of speed, then I sit it custom-fit for CQ.
The negatives are that he already has the earnings for the derby so he may not be asked for his best, it's a 14 horse field and traffic could be an issue, and it is his first start of the year.

Still, he's been working steady at Hollywood for awhile now, so I expect a solid effort from him.

zippyneedsawin 02-06-2007 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Haven't looked at the PPs, but if there is plenty of speed, then I sit it custom-fit for CQ.
The negatives are that he already has the earnings for the derby so he may not be asked for his best, it's a 14 horse field and traffic could be an issue, and it is his first start of the year.

Still, he's been working steady at Hollywood for awhile now, so I expect a solid effort from him.


Yeah, the first start off a layoff plus knowing they don't have to get wins or earnings to get into the derby could play a role.. But, CQ did win in his debut, so I don't see why he can't do it again!


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