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blackthroatedwind 01-23-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jman5581
I know this is quick and dirty but I don't have a lot of time. So, for purposes of just throwing my hat into the contest (because I don't know if I'll be able to log on anymore the next few days), here are my picks. You guys can break it up, have fun with it, crush it, spit on it, but maybe when I come back to this thread I will learn something from it.

With little or no rationale...

3-7-10-11 / 6 / 13-7-6-4-1 /7 / 7-1-8 / 7-11-16-6

race 3
probably like blazen bunny the most second race off the claim, improving and dropping in class. cat did it doesn't have it for the stretch, I think she'll get beat again late. maybe they're thinking no blinkers will give her more awareness, but I'm taking others with the outside pp.

race 4
I think the stars align for Red Opal. She has shown ability when she's fresh. She gets the best jockey and obviously a good barn right now. She's seen the course before. No value, but I think the winner.

race 5
big field, take your pick...honestly I'm just trying to cover a few. Charlos, Peace Accord and El Gato Famoso have the best shot in my view. Charlos looks like he got shuffled back last time but was making some ground late going 5.5f. He showed some grit in his first start and Court stays on him.

race 6
single Antifreezette. Looks the fastest yesterday, today and tomorrow. Some trouble on the trip last time, but hopefully not this time. Good form coming in, as far as I know. Will the track kill him?

race 7
Movie Star, Singalong, Ballado's Thunder. BT is 2 for 3 at the distance and gets Gomez. What does that guy know??

race 8
I like Rapid Silver the best, but he's in pp 16. BUT, he was in 13 last time and almost got the job done at 7f. Looks to be improving and since they have the whole stretch to get in a good spot, I'll give him a spot on my ticket. I can't pass up Highly Gallant, but I probably should. I question how ready he is to run off the 6 month layoff. He's one of those that looks like he could use a race, to use the cliche'. And then, Phantom Gray who comes back off of a route with a trainer who wins 39% route to sprint...But, if I were feeling brave, I would probably take Highly Gallant out and put in Closet Trader, the 6, who keeps MC Baze and showed a good late effort in his last at this level.


You have to put together a play for a MINIMUM of $2000 and a MAXIMUM of $2500.

Scav 01-23-2007 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You have to put together a play for a MINIMUM of $2000 and a MAXIMUM of $2500.

Steve might be going bankrupt becuase even I will hit this with a $2500 budget.

I have looked at it three different times and it looks pretty formful in my opinion. The bookends are the only races that are tough, and those always end up with the chalk winning :)

blackthroatedwind 01-23-2007 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Steve might be going bankrupt becuase even I will hit this with a $2500 budget.

I have looked at it three different times and it looks pretty formful in my opinion. The bookends are the only races that are tough, and those always end up with the chalk winning :)


I will be surprised if we have 20 people playing this contest if one of them hits it....including you.

brianwspencer 01-23-2007 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I will be surprised if we have 20 people playing this contest if one of them hits it....including you.

are there free pps for this anywhere?

i may toss my hat in tonight if i feel up to capping the card

Scav 01-23-2007 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I will be surprised if we have 20 people playing this contest if one of them hits it....including you.

i am lock city, I already forwarded my address to Byk to mail it out :)

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-23-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
i am lock city, I already forwarded my address to Byk to mail it out :)

confedince is a good thing...look out for the following phrases after...bootleg ride..comedy break...ect ect:D

lemoncrush 01-23-2007 02:51 PM

Early Scratches
 
4th) Kendrick's Patsy

5th) El Gato Famoso, Big Cascade

8th Smoke n Bloke, Rapid Silver

ArlJim78 01-23-2007 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Steve might be going bankrupt becuase even I will hit this with a $2500 budget.

I have looked at it three different times and it looks pretty formful in my opinion. The bookends are the only races that are tough, and those always end up with the chalk winning :)

we must be looking at different cards then.

i see this sequence as pretty tricky with some possible false locks.

i will finalize my stuff tonight. the $2500 cap is going to be hard to respect.

Buffymommy 01-23-2007 03:37 PM

I am sorry if this sounds stupid BUT....

OK, I want to try this, but can one of you guys explain to me how to break down the money? I am a WPS bettor ONLY. I understand Tris & Exactas, but I have never played a Pick 6.

How do you break it down? For example, if I pick one horse in each race, HOW MUCH IS THAT?

See I will come in last place for this! I will gladly take the last spot for everyone.

SniperSB23 01-23-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I am sorry if this sounds stupid BUT....

OK, I want to try this, but can one of you guys explain to me how to break down the money? I am a WPS bettor ONLY. I understand Tris & Exactas, but I have never played a Pick 6.

How do you break it down? For example, if I pick one horse in each race, HOW MUCH IS THAT?

See I will come in last place for this! I will gladly take the last spot for everyone.

If you just want to play a simple ticket just multiply the number of horses you are using in each race and then multiply by 2 to get a $2 bet. So if you take 3 horses in each race it would be 3X3X3X3X3X3 *$2 which would be $1458. Taking 1 horse in each race only costs $2.

Buffymommy 01-23-2007 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
If you just want to play a simple ticket just multiply the number of horses you are using in each race and then multiply by 2 to get a $2 bet. So if you take 3 horses in each race it would be 3X3X3X3X3X3 *$2 which would be $1458. Taking 1 horse in each race only costs $2.


So a pick 6 ticket with one horse in each race is only $2 or is it $2 a horse? Sorry if I sound stupid. I have never played this before, but I may as well take a shot. OH I am going to drive my hubby crazy tonight. I am good with numbers though (as long as I am not drinking).

IN OTHERWORDS, DON'T ANYONE PLAY MY PICKS! I want to learn how to do it though. This is a fun contest to learn with.

SniperSB23 01-23-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
So a pick 6 ticket with one horse in each race is only $2 or is it $2 a horse? Sorry if I sound stupid. I have never played this before, but I may as well take a shot. OH I am going to drive my hubby crazy tonight. I am good with numbers though (as long as I am not drinking).

IN OTHERWORDS, DON'T ANYONE PLAY MY PICKS! I want to learn how to do it though. This is a fun contest to learn with.

$2 for the whole ticket. It is 1X1X1X1X1X1 * $2 which is still only $2. The goal here is to structure a ticket between $2000 and $2500 so you need to go fairly deep in a few races.

Buffymommy 01-23-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
$2 for the whole ticket. It is 1X1X1X1X1X1 * $2 which is still only $2. The goal here is to structure a ticket between $2000 and $2500 so you need to go fairly deep in a few races.


OK, I will give it a shot! Thanks sniper. I think I get it now. Hee hee. Lets see if my gut tells me anything tonight.

2MinsToPost 01-23-2007 03:56 PM

http://www.santaanita.com/racing/han...drf/070124.pdf
http://www.santaanita.com/racing/han...use/070124.pdf

above you will find some links with some breakdowns of the races tomorrow. just wanted to throw this out for those that might be interested.

Gander 01-23-2007 04:16 PM

Buffy- See if you can find somebody to go in on a ticket with you. Each of you pick 1 horse in each race and then compare notes. If every race your opinions vary and you want to use 2 horses per race, your ticket would cost $128... 2x2x2x2x2x2 x $2 = $128.

If you can come up with even 1 single your ticket would be reduced to $64...
2x2x2x2x2x1 x $2 = $64

2 singles makes it very affordable....2x2x2x2x1x1 x $2 = $32

3 singles? 2x2x2x1x1x1 x $2 = $16

Kasept 01-23-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
4th) Kendrick's Patsy

5th) El Gato Famoso, Big Cascade

8th Smoke n Bloke, Rapid Silver

Thx Crush!! Everyone appreciates it... And a couple of those help the tix...

Sightseek 01-23-2007 07:28 PM

:( I suck.

SniperSB23 01-23-2007 08:29 PM

I found it interesting while constructing my A/B/C ticket how much of a difference it can make to move a horse from B to C. By moving one horse from B to C it freed up enough money for me to add like 10-12 horses to the C list. Obviously I could get burnt if that horse downgraded to C wins and my B's do well but I thought it was well worth the price.

Also, I made a simple excel sheet that you can put in your number of A's, B's, and C's in each race and it will give you back the cost of your total bet. If anyone wants a copy PM me your e-mail and I'll be happy to pass it along.

Buffymommy 01-24-2007 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
Buffy- See if you can find somebody to go in on a ticket with you. Each of you pick 1 horse in each race and then compare notes. If every race your opinions vary and you want to use 2 horses per race, your ticket would cost $128... 2x2x2x2x2x2 x $2 = $128.

If you can come up with even 1 single your ticket would be reduced to $64...
2x2x2x2x2x1 x $2 = $64

2 singles makes it very affordable....2x2x2x2x1x1 x $2 = $32

3 singles? 2x2x2x1x1x1 x $2 = $16


I thought about it but have no confidence in myself right now. Just going to do the contest. I am more than likely going to majorly suck at this so I am not going to put real money in on it. :) Horse had to be put on hold, saving to get a new car now. Mine is nine years old and is only going to last me MAYBE another year. Car this year, horse next year.

Buffymommy 01-24-2007 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
http://www.santaanita.com/racing/han...drf/070124.pdf
http://www.santaanita.com/racing/han...use/070124.pdf

above you will find some links with some breakdowns of the races tomorrow. just wanted to throw this out for those that might be interested.


Thanks 2min.


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