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Cajungator26 12-21-2006 02:53 PM

I'm liking all of these holidays. :cool:

oracle80 12-21-2006 02:54 PM

My only thought it that having a race named for him at the site of his career ending injury, on the same Preakness day racecard will always conjure up memories of the injury. I'm not real keen on this.

paisjpq 12-21-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
My only thought it that having a race named for him at the site of his career ending injury, on the same Preakness day racecard will always conjure up memories of the injury. I'm not real keen on this.

I agree...why not another day or another track? It's a nice gesture and he probably deserves it, but on preakness day at pim seems like it will remind people more of the tragedy of his injury rather than the triumph of his survival.
I also don't really like it in general when they rename races...

The Indomitable DrugS 12-21-2006 05:40 PM

Sir Barton, entered the Kentucky Derby, on May 10th 1919 as a maiden...who's only purpose in the race was to run off and set a fast pace for the favorite, his stablemate Billy Kelly.

The maiden, playing the role of rabbit, won the Kentucky Derby by 5 lengths in wire-to-wire fashion. He wired them 4 days later in the Preakness. So sharp he was, that he was entered in the Withers 10 days after the Preakness, and he won. Of course, he would win the Belmont two weeks later and become the first horse in history to sweep the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont...what is now known as the triple crown.

It's true...but kind of sounds like a Disney movie. In today's game, there is exactly a 0.00% chance of that ever happening.

For one thing, the size of the foal crops were microscopic 85 years ago.

If you ask me, they should run a $100,000 stake, restricted for maidens, as the first or second race on the KY Derby undercard. They can call it the Sir Barton Stakes.

You'd have a full field...and a real productive maiden race. But hey, most ideas I formulate after having a few puffs of ganja are pretty bad I guess.

Kasept 12-21-2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
My only thought it that having a race named for him at the site of his career ending injury, on the same Preakness day racecard will always conjure up memories of the injury. I'm not real keen on this.

That was my first thought too..

blackthroatedwind 12-21-2006 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
But hey, most ideas I formulate after having a few puffs of ganja are pretty bad I guess.




That was my first thought too..

uscrules 12-21-2006 07:31 PM

why not just rename the kentucky derby the barbaro stakes? my first thought is he got hurt in pimlico so why bring back old memories>'
i was at the derby this year but in the middle so you culdnt see me, chloe had a seat on the finish line but we didnt start dating until july.

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-21-2006 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That was my first thought too..

Ditto...me too!!! :cool:

Danzig 12-21-2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Good idea. While we're at it, rename the Preakness the Bernardini and the Belmont the Jazil. And I think we should rename the Bluegrass the Sinister Minister.I was at the Belmont this year, but I was wrecked by the 5th race. In all honesty, seems like an odd choice for the race, being as it's run on the same track and day as his accident. I think they would have been better off naming the Preakness prep after him that is run there. I can't think of the name of it off of the top of my head.

the federico tesio is what i think you mean.
wonder how many bettors even know who tesio was...

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-21-2006 09:56 PM

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the federico tesio is what i think you mean.
wonder how many bettors even know who tesio was...

Federico was my mother's maiden name...

Danzig 12-21-2006 09:59 PM

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Thats it. And I'll be honest, I have no idea who he is, but I am going to look it up right now.

from what i've always seen, he gets the credit for the phrase 'breed the best to the best, and hope for the best'.


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