There really is no argument because the only thing that is cut and dry is the racing is better in Saratoga. That can not be argued. Del Mar's racing is a joke and not really a big upgrade (if any) from Hollywood Park.

Everything else is what you prefer personally and thats different things to different people. I have met people who claim Saratoga has the best restaurants and nightlife. To each their own.

Well yeah Keenland in the fall is awsome.... and if I see Kenny again I'll say the same thing. Don't care what anybody says nothing like Saratoga.

Sorry but I love Saratoga but the restaurants and nightlife in San Diego put Saratoga to shame. San Diego is probably the nicest place in the US. Anyone who told you Saratoga has the better restaurants and nightlife has never been to Del Mar.

That Keeneland fall meet with the sales and the farm tours puts Saratoga and Del Mar to shame. Easily the best experience I have had when it comes to racing. Drive the 90 minutes to Louisville and you can get a nice derby museum tour too.

Been to San Diego about 4 times and loved every minute. Wont disagree at all regarding the restaurants as I am a huge mexican food fan and San Diego has some of the best I have ever had. Saratoga has okay restaurants but they charge far too much for what you get and the choices seem to be very limited. If you arent much in to food and willing to pay $28 for a average steak with frozen veges than you'll be fine.

I cant comment on the women as I am very happily married but folks, use your imagination! You ever see the show Baywatch? Thats what girls really do look like in Southern Cal!

Keeneland was what got me started on being a track degenerate, but let me tell you it is not as good as DMR or SAR.

First of all Kee is soooo tiny that a sunny Saturday crowd of 30,000 has absolutely NO WHERE to go. You are shoulder-to-shoulder. The crowd is 90% frat & sorority peeps who are staggering around bleary-eyed and taking up space and getting in the way of the betting lines. Which take forever. The apron is the ONLY one in the country to face INTO the sun, leaving you burnt to a crisp and squinting all afternoon. The speed bias is so ridiculous that the racing is irrelevant b/c the form doesn't hold up.

And yes I'm grateful to have Kee, but now that i have seen real tracks like Arlington and Belmont I realize it is kinda crappy in some ways.

as a so.cal native i put del mar behind santa anita and hollywood..... yeah we all know del mar has the hottest babes but who cares........ i go to the races to make money. if you want the best of both worlds go to vegas. vegas has the most beautiful woman by a country mile.

Keeneland should not be mentioned in the same sentence as these two, since they installed the Poly Crap...

I've never been to Del Mar...hope to soon.
Saratoga has it all for me, best horses, nice ambiance.
Belmont in the fall is good too.
Just my opinion.
NY ladies are not to sneer about.
Seems to me, beauty is where you find it.
DTS

Even with the polytrack Kenneland's race meets crush the one Del Mar puts on. I cant stand short fields and 2/5 shots who you never know have enough "medication" to get the job done.

Saratoga and Keeneland are the top two tracks that I want to visit soon. I know I'll see Keeneland within the next year, and I will go out of my way to go see Saratoga.

Don't bother with Keeneland, unless you want to wear a face mask, that Poly Junk stinks, you should smell that garbage at Turfway, Keeneland is dead to me. Go straight to Saratoga and you'll be happier...

The woman at Del Mar make up for the mediocre racing. I had huge expectations when I went and they were easily met. In horse racing terms, there are literally hundreds of Ruffians.

Well, I'm moving to Lexington next year, and Lexington is horse heaven. Although, I hope I end up at Saratoga for my internship.

Keeneland can put in concrete and it still will have the best atmosphere of any track.

If you love horses you will like Keeneland better but the Oklahoma training track at Saratoga makes it pretty close. Lexington KY puts Saratoga to shame though when you are talking farms. When you drive into Keeneland take a look to your right and it is arguably the greatest farm the sport has ever known.

I thought the same until Kiaran said today he wants poly in NY. Looks like poly is going to be everywhere before you know it.

I've only been to DelMar once ...

... and found it very eery.

It's a beautiful place which attracts decent quality horses ... but the "fans" ... the "fans" ... they're so laid back that they're practically brain dead.

Pleasantly Perfect ran the day I was there ... and when he walked into, through, and out of the paddock ... you could hear a pin drop. Not a peep from anyone. No cheers, no boos, no nothing.

This would never happen at a New York track ... where the fans are much more into the game. Very enthusiastic, very boisterous, very ballsy.

Yeah ... some of the women looked great ... but where were the racing fans?

Good point

We don't have to listen to the Aqueduct story again do we?