sightseeing, for shug/phipps.

not really, but darn guys. it's december. we don't even know that any of these will make the field!

we also don't know how many may be retired by May.

hate to think that, but yeah, it'll happen.

well, luckily for us, they kept street sense out there. i mean, what more does he need to prove?

See Mike, I do know a little bit about what I am talking about...lol. Sorry, I couldn't help myself:D ;)

The funny thing is that I'm changing my stance. As much as I hyped up Nobiz Like Shobiz and as much as I like Tagg, I've switched from Nobiz Like Shobiz to Asmussen's Tiz Wonderful for the time being. Of course, that will probably all change by the time the derby comes around. Nobiz Like Shobiz is my second choice.

In no particluar order:

6 / 5 / 4 / 2

and the "first Saturday in May" is a LONG way...away!

can we please talk about who is going to win the Tropical Park Derby?
at least it is somewhat sooner.

of the ones listed,
I suppose Tiz Wonderful.
but the chances of even half of those making the starting gate on KY Derby day is remote.


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dude. wasted.

and street sense is my lock. im still praying that he will fail miserably leading up to the Derby leaving him double digit odds come Derby day

I saw Tiz Wonderful break his maiden at SAR and made alot of money off him on that race so I'll take him. . .

This will be Kiaran Mclaughlin's year to win it. I liked him for years and now he is in the big top now and he is going to make more noise in 2007.

At least as good as At the Threshhold, I would think. Look, Albert the Great's oldest foals will turn 4 in a few weeks. GOOD GRIEF! You can judge a stallion off of two crops who haven't even reached the age at which he showed his best form? What a wizard you are! Probably thought Dynaformer was a bust when his first runners were 3, too.

hey, if danzig can get grief for being a 'disappointment', i guess ATG can as well....lol

no, seriously...i am amazed that some root against racehorses, but to root against a horse due to who his daddy is takes things a bit far imo. hell, he doesn't know who his father is! lol

So you're saying its too earlier to label him as a dud or brutal sire?
I thought that seemed a little harsh myself since it seemed like I just started noticing his runners this year.

Quay and other seem to be leading the pack for me.

ATG will do fine.

Its not like he was winning the Hopeful himself.
may take them time, but they will be runners.
probably will be just as effective on turf also.

as a racehorse, he is one of the most underappreciated I have ever seen.


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from what I have read from you Bid, you are a good person,
but you deserve whatever you get for saying anything negative about Albert The Great as a racehorse.

I would like to buy the guy who kicked your as* a beer.lol

I know if I heard something insulting towards Albert The Great, all 135 lbs of me would be swinging.


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I'd have to bet on other if it was 1/9 odds at this point.

Hey, I see you finally made it over here. Welcome.:)

You guys are all insane for even talking about this stuff already. It is 90% possible that we haven't even seen the Derby winner yet on track, especially with the way trainers want to train up to the race. If anything, the horse probably hasn't won yet. Lets start talking about it in February when they would have had to debuted and won by then to be considered.

totally agree,
except for one point.

history tell us that the Derby winner does need to run at the age of 2.
so we MOST LIKELY have seen the Derby winner run(althoght not neccessarily win) in 2006.

still way too early to talk about a winner of a race run 6 months from now.



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