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Rootdog1 11-30-2006 05:32 PM

GOOD LUCK ORACLE!! I am pulling for you. I have missed one leg, and used 1 & 2 in the 7th and used 1 & 10 in the last leg......like the 10 in the 8th at a price.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
You're joking? Take a look at the race 6 p3 pays. That gives a clue.

Stud obviously he wasnt looking at the pik-3's and doesnt realize how much more it payed with the 5 than it was paying with the 2.
Its like 3 times the value.
And yeah USC, the same folks who play pik-3's play pik-4's and pik-6's.
Its not like there are some folks on an island somewhere who only play pik3's and soem on another island who play pik-6's only.
If you look at pik payouts of any kind they almost always correspond, as in pik-3 lowest payout with a horse being the lowest payout on the pik-4 with the same horse.
Trust me, the 2 losing kicked up the price by a factor of at least 2 1/2, maybe 3. You have to single someone somewhere.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
GOOD LUCK ORACLE!! I am pulling for you. I have missed one leg, and used 1 & 2 in the 7th and used 1 & 10 in the last leg......like the 10 in the 8th at a price.

The 1 was strangled back off a CRAWLING pace last time out in the last race. half went in 51:2 that day and she was 3 1/2 off that and wide.
Draws the rail and drops from MSW to mdn 25. I really like her and only used Mullisn because shes bred to go farther and seems to be getting sharp.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:37 PM

Thanks Victor, I really appreciate you letting Antongeorgi school you in race riding. Piece of ****ing garbage should be deported.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:39 PM

Unbelievable. He let that kid shut him off after he had already gone into a move with his horse. I saw it coming, and just can't believe he didn't sit and wait to move when he got a hole.
I knew what was gonna happen before it did.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:42 PM

1 is paying 40,800
6 is paying 81,600

Ours would have been less, but maybe 30 and 60 as opposed to 40 and 80.
Victor Espinoza should get the clap from a prostitue tonight. I'll be hoping anyway.

philcski 11-30-2006 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
1 is paying 40,800
6 is paying 81,600

Ours would have been less, but maybe 30 and 60 as opposed to 40 and 80.
Victor Espinoza should get the clap from a prostitue tonight. I'll be hoping anyway.

any carryover possibilities?

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
any carryover possibilities?

3 of em are carryovers, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
3,5,10 are carryovers.
If you wanna root for a carryover the best chance of those three to me would be the 10, who certainly isn't impossible. The other two are.

Rupert Pupkin 11-30-2006 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
1 is paying 40,800
6 is paying 81,600

Ours would have been less, but maybe 30 and 60 as opposed to 40 and 80.
Victor Espinoza should get the clap from a prostitue tonight. I'll be hoping anyway.

Victor didn't have any horse. There was nothing he could do.

Anyway, you did a great job getting the first 4 in a row. I hope you get this next one home and get a nice consolation.

uscrules 11-30-2006 05:54 PM

Good run Oracle. This game will eat you up and toy with your emotions if you let it. Maybe you'll get a nice pick 5 but I know its no consolation. My advice to you is start drinking heavily.

oracle80 11-30-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Victor didn't have any horse. There was nothing he could do.

Anyway, you did a great job getting the first 4 in a row. I hope you get this next one home and get a nice consolation.

Rupert you don't watch races like i do, I think we disagree often enough that its obvious.
You tend to think they are machines, an can stop and start at any point in a race.
Its just not so, when you wind one up like he did (she was much stronger than the 8 was) and then stop them cold, some of them will start the engine up for you again and some won't.
She was moving sweeter, and moving stronger, once she got stopped she chucked it.
he had plenty of horse.

uscrules 11-30-2006 06:04 PM

I agree Oracle. Not saying your horse would have won the race but he would have finished a lot closer to the 8 had he not been stopped, maybe had won. That was going to be a great stretch duel between the 8 and the 1, but Victor f'ed it up. He owes you. Start drinking heavily partner.

Rupert, your way off partner.

blackthroatedwind 11-30-2006 06:05 PM

Is this announcer calling this last race at Hollywood doing an impression of Ronnie Ebanks?

uscrules 11-30-2006 06:06 PM

Great job Oracle. You should get about 10 grand for that consolation? Maybe 12?

oracle80 11-30-2006 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Is this announcer calling this last race at Hollywood doing an impression of Ronnie Ebanks?

I was actually thinking the same exact thing.

I officially hate Victor Espinoza's guts. Nothing bad enough can happen to him. The one paying 81,600 just won.

blackthroatedwind 11-30-2006 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
Great job Oracle. You should get about 10 grand for that consolation? Maybe 12?

Huh? Are you just a ball buster or that confused?

Consos are in the 1% range with a carryover. $400 would be optimistic.

oracle80 11-30-2006 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
Great job Oracle. You should get about 10 grand for that consolation? Maybe 12?

Umm,
How long have you been following horses and racing?
It should pay about 800 bucks I'd think.

oracle80 11-30-2006 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Huh? Are you just a ball buster or that confused?

Consos are in the 1% range with a carryover. $400 would be optimistic.

I was thinking 800 for that very same math reason, its paying 81,200.

ceejay 11-30-2006 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Unbelievable. He let that kid shut him off after he had already gone into a move with his horse. I saw it coming, and just can't believe he didn't sit and wait to move when he got a hole.
I knew what was gonna happen before it did.

That was one tough beat. My condolences....

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-30-2006 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I was actually thinking the same exact thing.

I officially hate Victor Espinoza's guts. Nothing bad enough can happen to him. The one paying 81,600 just won.

take your beat like a man......bictor is ok by me....turn the page,,


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