Originally Posted by oracle80

I don't see how anyone could use the DRf stats as the industry itself would not recognize Johnny's money in record keeping stats last year in regards to Roses In May's win.
They don't do much wrong over at DRF but the way they keep track of earnings is really incorrect.
Take a look at ole Dylan Thomas sitting in 6th place on their earnings list, and try and reconcile that with his only effort in America which was an easing for all intents and purposes in the JCGC.
Equibase is the recognized stat keep and you are misleading everyone when you say Prado leads there by "a little". He leads by 800 grand with one month to go.
Its between those two and its a tossup but I don't believe Gomez won a single riding title this year at any place he rode, not one. Prado won several, including beating Gomez at both Belmont and Saratoga, since he also leads him in money by 800 grand, I'd just have to say he deserves it more.
I don't believe in using triple crown races by themselves as justification of anything, so I don't think Prado's Derby win should count for anything more than another grade one. BUt Edgar also won a Breeders Cup race as well and Gomez got blanked on that day with several live mounts he could have secured the Eclipse award with winning victories on any of them.
Prado outrode him heads up in all three meets that they competed against one another in, and won 800 grand more than Gomez did. I think thats enough to put him over the top.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Scuds,
Every word of my post is accurate and can be verified.
You can't have it both ways dude. Either David Junior is the USA's 2nd leading money earner and Gomez has earned more cash, or Prado is the leading money earner and Bernadini is the USA's 2nd leading money earner.
Which one makes more sense to you?

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

By the way, I know the Dubai money does count for certain things. Discreet Cat's Dubai money counted. That was how he had enough money to get into the Ky Derby. They didn't end up running him in the Ky derby, but he did have the money to get in.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The Derby rules are pretty silly and count any money from any graded stakes. That means that the Sheikhs could up the UAE Derby to $10 million and structure the payouts so that the top five are guaranteed a spot in the Derby if they want. It also means that 6 or 7 fillies could get in the field every year if they wanted to. The Delta Jackpot is going to make the problem worse this year. 2nd place in the Wood Memorial will no longer earn you a spot in the Derby. Jazil was the last to get in last year despite no foreign horses or fillies and it is only going to be worse next year.

The Eclipse Awards are based on your North American accomplishments so shouldn't factor in money earned overseas.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The jockey's race will be a two man race between Gomez and Prado. They have a huge lead on the rest of the field. Gomez is at $20.6 million, Prado is at $19.6 million. The next closest guy is Espinoza at $16.2 million.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Scuds,
Every word of my post is accurate and can be verified.
You can't have it both ways dude. Either David Junior is the USA's 2nd leading money earner and Gomez has earned more cash, or Prado is the leading money earner and Bernadini is the USA's 2nd leading money earner.
Which one makes more sense to you?