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brianwspencer 11-17-2006 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
The Funny Part Is Whenever One Of His Horse Show A Little Something In A Race, He Raises Them So High In Class It Seems To Make Sure They Never Win
Well I guess he just never learned to capitalize as well as some of the rest?:rolleyes:

2 Dollar Bill 11-17-2006 04:42 PM
Its all how you look at things....(glass half empty, half full )
He can run last in the 5th race..but that means he is first in the 6th race !

brianwspencer 11-17-2006 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think you may be thinking of John candlin. Somehow I think these guys end up doing okay. they might not be winning races, but they are making an okay living doing other things....
It's like Ida Spagnola in Chicago. I've always had a soft spot for her because she trained Forever Regal, who I loved watching run, but she never wins anything. She occasionally gets a check in an Illinois maiden claiming race, but never gets anything of note.

ArlJim78 11-17-2006 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think you may be thinking of John candlin. Somehow I think these guys end up doing okay. they might not be winning races, but they are making an okay living doing other things....
No No, John Candlin and Ida Spagnola (bwspencer) have records that tower over Rauseem Nauf. He hasn't won in years.
That is the guy we're talking about. The only question was where he does most of his training.

brianwspencer 11-17-2006 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
No No, John Candlin and Ida Spagnola (bwspencer) have records that tower over Rauseem Nauf. He hasn't won in years.
That is the guy we're talking about. The only question was where he does most of his training.
oh no, i know that. i was going more for a response to the post i quoted where someone talked about how they don't win races often but somehow get by -- she doesn't do very well and doesn't win very often, but she keeps doing it. that's all i was saying. not implying that it takes her 300 races to win one :)

i always pull for her horses though for some reason. don't know a thing about her besides that forever regal was hers, that's enough for me to root for her!

ArlJim78 11-17-2006 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
oh no, i know that. i was going more for a response to the post i quoted where someone talked about how they don't win races often but somehow get by -- she doesn't do very well and doesn't win very often, but she keeps doing it. that's all i was saying. not implying that it takes her 300 races to win one :)

i always pull for her horses though for some reason. don't know a thing about her besides that forever regal was hers, that's enough for me to root for her!
Funny, I'm the same way, in terms of pulling for her horses. I always give them a look. Sometimes they come in at a big price.

ArlJim78 11-17-2006 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Ah, okay. Well I'm pretty sure I haven't seen him with many entries in NY, if any.
Yeah I was wrong about the NY part. I think he might be based in Kentucky.

Left Bank 11-17-2006 07:02 PM
We have a trainer like this at Canterbury.He has another job,and he does NOT know how to read a condition book to save his life.His horses will break their maiden at the 10k maidenclaiming statebred level with a 29 beyer,and then he will enter them in a stakes,where they will get destroyed.Same situation.Kinda reminds me of Bob Baedeker on TVG.Tonight,Bob says"I can guarantee a horse is going to win the next race" Duh,Ya think,Bob?

ArlJim78 11-17-2006 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by philcski
Perusing the MNR PP's the other evening I saw a jockey that was 0-184 on the year, riding for a trainer that was 0-80something on the year.

That's hard to do.
Figured out who the jockey might be, Alfredo Hernandez. Tonight he is listed as 1-170 on the year. Doug Williams and Billy Wilson are two others that race there and almost never win.

eajinabi 11-17-2006 08:27 PM
http://revenue.ky.gov/delinqindividuals.htm

Check this link. I Googled this guys name and this Rauf guy is deliquent on his taxes for almost $200,000. I wonder if its the same guy as the trainer mentioned here. I dont think there will be more than one person in LEXINGTON, KY named Naseem Rauf. Who Knows?

ArlJim78 11-17-2006 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by eajinabi
http://revenue.ky.gov/delinqindividuals.htm

Check this link. I Googled this guys name and this Rauf guy is deliquent on his taxes for almost $200,000. I wonder if its the same guy as the trainer mentioned here. I dont think there will be more than one person in LEXINGTON, KY named Naseem Rauf. Who Knows?
He should have dropped those horses down to the level where they could win.

philcski 11-17-2006 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Figured out who the jockey might be, Alfredo Hernandez. Tonight he is listed as 1-170 on the year. Doug Williams and Billy Wilson are two others that race there and almost never win.
That's the guy, Billy Wilson.


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