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Dahoss 07-09-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1140339)
Sure. It’s an easy bet for you because you know I’m a nice guy and won’t make anything negative for you. You’d have a field day with mine. It’s a bet.

Cool...I’m open other other bets that aren’t as easy for me. Let me know.

King Glorious 07-09-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1140340)
Cool...I’m open other other bets that aren’t as easy for me. Let me know.

$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other. To put it even more in your favor, how about we make it harder for me to win. If both Swiss Skydiver AND Venetian Harbor don’t win, I’ll pay you $100. If both do, you pay me $150. Of course, if either doesn’t start or if a rider falls off, bet is cancelled.

Dahoss 07-09-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1140341)
$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other. To put it even more in your favor, how about we make it harder for me to win. If both Swiss Skydiver AND Venetian Harbor don’t win, I’ll pay you $100. If both do, you pay me $150. Of course, if either doesn’t start or if a rider falls off, bet is cancelled.

Deal

knickslions2 07-09-2020 02:16 PM

We have some gambling there fellows!! Swiss is going to have to be real good to win this one imo.

Alabama Stakes 07-09-2020 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1140342)
Deal

To close the awesome first set.

A scorching one today at noon on Sirius 23 Grateful Dead channel from 10/25/89 Miami.
Bob even made it through stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis blues again clean.

blackthroatedwind 07-09-2020 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1140341)
$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other.

I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.

moses 07-09-2020 05:44 PM

Trying to understand why Jolie Olimpica is the 2nd choice and 5/2. I know she’s good on turf but she’s never gone this distance, pace scenario does not seem to benefit her, and there is at least a case to be made for some of the others over her.

Or am I overthinking and Rushing Fall is an easy winner here?

King Glorious 07-09-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1140362)
I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.

You were option B lol

moses 07-09-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1140342)
Deal

If you play this right, you could literally not lose. Excellent bet on your part.

Dahoss 07-09-2020 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1140363)
Trying to understand why Jolie Olimpica is the 2nd choice and 5/2. I know she’s good on turf but she’s never gone this distance, pace scenario does not seem to benefit her, and there is at least a case to be made for some of the others over her.

Or am I overthinking and Rushing Fall is an easy winner here?

That’s a fantastic race. I doubt Jolie ends up going off 2nd choice. Bad line IMO. She’s good and she’s got a big reputation but Toinette should be 2nd choice.

I have a ton of respect for Rushing Fall but I don’t like her Saturday. She had everything go her way last time and I don’t see that happening here. I’m using Juliet Foxtrot, who should’ve gotten a lot out of her last, Toinette and Altea. Altea is a bit of a chase on my part as l’ve bet her the last three times and she should’ve won last time. She’s a notch below the best in here but is due for some luck. We both are :D

Dahoss 07-09-2020 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1140362)
I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.

A bit?

:D

moses 07-09-2020 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1140367)
That’s a fantastic race. I doubt Jolie ends up going off 2nd choice. Bad line IMO. She’s good and she’s got a big reputation but Toinette should be 2nd choice.

I have a ton of respect for Rushing Fall but I don’t like her Saturday. She had everything go her way last time and I don’t see that happening here. I’m using Juliet Foxtrot, who should’ve gotten a lot out of her last, Toinette and Altea. Altea is a bit of a chase on my part as l’ve bet her the last three times and she should’ve won last time. She’s a notch below the best in here but is due for some luck. We both are :D

I can’t ignore Rushing Fall but like Juliet Foxtrot and Toinette as well. I tried to talk myself into Altea and Mucho Unusual but not sure I can.

moses 07-10-2020 05:04 PM

I don’t remember if this was discussed on the board...and I know it’s very common for people to incorrectly claim a golden rail, but did rail/inside horses have an advantage on FL Derby day? Shivaree at 80-1, Identifier at 60-1, Just Whistle at 24-1, Swiss Skydiver at 9-1, Bajan Girl at above 100-1, Wind of Change at 9-1, Yorkton at 20-1 all got inside trips and outran their odds, some hitting career best Beyers. A few did not run very well the next time out.

Obviously Swiss Skydiver has acquitted herself and a horse like Yorkton is pretty nice...but I’m trying to figure out if a horse like Shivaree is worth consideration given what looks like a bit of a bias in his biggest race and the likely pace scenario in the Bluegrass, he seems like a toss from exotics unless the track ends up being favorable conditions for him tomorrow.

King Glorious 07-11-2020 04:55 PM

Your money will be on the way soon.

RolloTomasi 07-11-2020 05:36 PM

If you want to see track records broken at Keeneland I guess they need to move the meet permanently to July.

Four track or course records set today and the Blue Grass and Madison were just a tick off the 9f and 7f marks respectively. Also a 2yo maiden and an allowance horse were each about a second off the track records for 6f and 6.5f.

Or did they install new surfaces and there were no prior records?

Dahoss 07-12-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1140533)
Your money will be on the way soon.

For the record, King Glorious is a stand up guy. We agreed upon a place to donate the bet money and he made the donation last night.

Without getting too preachy, I understand these are tough times for everyone but if you have the means there are a lot of very worthy horse related places that could use the help.

freddymo 07-12-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1140559)
For the record, King Glorious is a stand up guy. We agreed upon a place to donate the bet money and he made the donation last night.

Without getting too preachy, I understand these are tough times for everyone but if you have the means there are a lot of very worthy horse related places that could use the help.

I have a pay pal account that is as worthy any. Shall I dm the details?

jms62 07-12-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1140568)
I have a pay pal account that is as worthy any. Shall I dm the details?

I’m sure you got your PPP Cheese. $RINO

freddymo 07-12-2020 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1140577)
I’m sure you got your PPP Cheese. $RINO

Making America Great one check at a time

Alabama Stakes 07-13-2020 03:00 PM

Freddymo Factor :$:


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