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wild barry 12-19-2019 01:50 PM

Khozan
 
I am very interested in offspring of Khozan. Don not follow south Fla. until the winter. Never heard of the first crop sire Khozan until a couple of weeks ago. Big fan of Distorted Humor bloodline both sire and broodmare sire. I do not remember who trained Khozan. I would think probably Pletcher or Mclaughlin trained the horse. Krozan only made 2 starts and won both @7F and ! mile. Won by open lengths both starts. I am sure I wagered on him if he was any kind of price. The dam of Krozan Delta princess dropped Royal Delta(3 time champ) and Delta Prince (grade 1W). Horse stood for 4K now 8500. I would think his offspring would relish 2 turns. He probably was booked to less than stellar mares to breed to. If I could get a future book bet on sire winning the derby I would donate a few bucks.

moses 12-19-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wild barry (Post 1133424)
I am very interested in offspring of Khozan. Don not follow south Fla. until the winter. Never heard of the first crop sire Khozan until a couple of weeks ago. Big fan of Distorted Humor bloodline both sire and broodmare sire. I do not remember who trained Khozan. I would think probably Pletcher or Mclaughlin trained the horse. Krozan only made 2 starts and won both @7F and ! mile. Won by open lengths both starts. I am sure I wagered on him if he was any kind of price. The dam of Krozan Delta princess dropped Royal Delta(3 time champ) and Delta Prince (grade 1W). Horse stood for 4K now 8500. I would think his offspring would relish 2 turns. He probably was booked to less than stellar mares to breed to. If I could get a future book bet on sire winning the derby I would donate a few bucks.

Oh yeah. I’m interested, just hesitant. Untitled looked great.

moses 12-27-2019 09:24 AM

Old news but Untitled has been purchased privately and is heading to the Casse barn. I wonder who bought him. Seems like something Gary Barber might do?

moses 01-01-2020 12:19 PM

Just saw that Honor AP may be out of the Sham?

moses 01-09-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133568)
Old news but Untitled has been purchased privately and is heading to the Casse barn. I wonder who bought him. Seems like something Gary Barber might do?

Confirmed. Untitled was purchased by Gary Barber. Casse plans to run him in the Swale Stakes...but says he doesn’t think he’ll have any issue getting two turns. Interesting.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...rgeting-swale/

senator L 01-09-2020 06:22 PM

I wonder if they give Sole Volante another try on dirt?

moses 01-09-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1133905)
I wonder if they give Sole Volante another try on dirt?

I think he deserves another show, possibly longer. If they do, I wonder if they’ll switch the jockey up.

Dahoss 01-09-2020 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by senator L (Post 1133905)
I wonder if they give Sole Volante another try on dirt?

I think I read that they are. It’s a mistake IMO because they could have went around 2 more times the other day and he wasn’t finishing better than he did.

He’s a very good turf horse. I just don’t think he is the same on dirt, but obviously the purse money is in dirt racing early in the year.

blackthroatedwind 01-09-2020 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133900)
Confirmed. Untitled was purchased by Gary Barber. Casse plans to run him in the Swale Stakes...but says he doesn’t think he’ll have any issue getting two turns. Interesting.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...rgeting-swale/

It seems every time a trainer says he doesn't believe a horse will have a problem going long, it has a problem going long:-)

moses 01-10-2020 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1133911)
It seems every time a trainer says he doesn't believe a horse will have a problem going long, it has a problem going long:-)

Nothing says confidence in a horse’s ability to handle two turns like running him in a $200,000 sprint on the same day and at the same track that a $350,000 8.5 furlong Derby prep is being run.

blackthroatedwind 01-10-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133914)
Nothing says confidence in a horse’s ability to handle two turns like running him in a $200,000 sprint on the same day and at the same track that a $350,000 8.5 furlong Derby prep is being run.

Nothing says dumb like stretching him out off a six furlong debut win while simultaneously throwing him into a super tough spot as well.

moses 01-10-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1133915)
Nothing says dumb like stretching him out off a six furlong debut win while simultaneously throwing him into a super tough spot as well.

Haha. I agree with you. I just thought it was funny that Casse said he doesn’t think he’ll have trouble around two turns and then targets a 7f race as his next start. From the sound of it, the Holy Bull could be loaded with talent. It would probably be an impossible task.

Even the Swale is more aggressive than he probably needs to be. He could have done what Maximum Security did last year and run a couple optional claiming races before entering stakes competition. So we’ll see how it plays out. I trust Casse and I like the horse. Hope he does well.

blackthroatedwind 01-10-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133917)
Haha. I agree with you. I just thought it was funny that Casse said he doesn’t think he’ll have trouble around two turns and then targets a 7f race as his next start. From the sound of it, the Holy Bull could be loaded with talent. It would probably be an impossible task.

Even the Swale is more aggressive than he probably needs to be. He could have done what Maximum Security did last year and run a couple optional claiming races before entering stakes competition. So we’ll see how it plays out. I trust Casse and I like the horse. Hope he does well.

Maximum Security ran in Starter races. BIG difference.

moses 01-10-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1133922)
Maximum Security ran in Starter races. BIG difference.

Maximum Security was just an example, perhaps a bad one. Roadster used an optional claiming allowance race to prep last year and I think a few of Pletcher’s horses did as well last year. Plenty of other very good horses have followed up their maiden win or preceded a major Derby Prep by running in an allowance optional claiming race.

Casse opted to go straight to a stakes race...which is probably a good sign...to me, it shows a lot of confidence in the horse’s overall ability.

blackthroatedwind 01-10-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133926)
Maximum Security was just an example, perhaps a bad one. Roadster used an optional claiming allowance race to prep last year and I think a few of Pletcher’s horses did as well last year. Plenty of other very good horses have followed up their maiden win or preceded a major Derby Prep by running in an allowance optional claiming race.

Casse opted to go straight to a stakes race...which is probably a good sign...to me, it shows a lot of confidence in the horse’s overall ability.

Most NW1X races are Optional Claimers these days in an attempt to get more entries.

Maximum Security was a bad example specifically because he was eligible for MUCH easier spots because he ran for a low tag first out.

senator L 01-10-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133906)
I think he deserves another show, possibly longer. If they do, I wonder if they’ll switch the jockey up.

I was thinking the same thing :eek: Not saying it was a bad ride, just
a little uninspiring. I say, two turns, Paco and see what he's got!

moses 01-12-2020 07:19 AM

It looks like there were a handful of pretty good 3YOs that ran yesterday. I’m going to have to go back and watch most of those races.

War Stopper with a 94 Beyer at Aqueduct was pretty nice.

senator L 01-20-2020 12:16 PM

Sole Volante breezed 7F in 1:22 on PM Turf....I think
they'll keep him on the lawn:D

moses 01-29-2020 11:43 AM

It looks like Maxfield may get back to work just in time to prep for the Derby. Stay tuned.

https://www.drf.com/news/maxfield-tr...e-chip-removed

moses 02-01-2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1132416)
One horse that I really like is Green Light Go despite the recent loss to Tiz the Law. I think that he could really improve by May of next year so I’m going to keep a watch on him.

I need to find a new horse to latch on to.


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