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this is probably a dumb question but i'll ask anyway.:o
could Colonial Downs hold the BC? we were there this summer and the facilities were very nice but i don't know if it's big enough? the weather would be nicer too.

Can't blame the BC for that.....they should just have it at CD every year anyway IMO...its just the ultimate venue for what you need to put on a proper BC...

Belmont is the closest thing to CD in what it can offer, but I HATE the fact they run one-turn races for both the Juvenile and Juvenile Fillies....absolutely hate it......it gives horses like Wild Fit (closing sprinters) a chance to win the races.....they are not a legit 'route' races and true sprinters can be fooled enough to run huge in the races....check Henny Hughes in last year's Juvy..damn near won it on the lead...

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Im of the opposite opinion.
I think at the age of 2, the champion should not be decided by who runs best in a route race.
i think the BCJ and BCJF should be run at 8f.
at the age of 2, its about who develops the quickest.
its not supposed to be an indication of who is goiing to be the best 3YO or older horse down the line.

on the Arc undercard, they run their biggest 2YO races of the year for Europe(Grand Criterium and Prix Marcel) at 7 and 8f respectively.
thats the way it should be done here.
its ridiculous to run the BCJF at 8.5f and the BC Distaff at only 9f.
its the same damn race. horses are not expected to progress more than .5f in a year's time?

Repent

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Originally Posted by repent

i agree completely. it's ridiculous how little difference in distance they expect an older horse to run compared to a 2 yo. either the juvies should be shorter (and they absolutely should be) or the distaff and classic should be longer. actually, not either, they should all be adjusted.

The best way to get to Monmouth

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Originally Posted by Cardus

Monmouth is along the Jersey Shore, so I wouldn't classify it as between New York and Philadelphia. It could take about one hour to get there from NYC with the usually expected traffic. (During Friday nights and Saturday mornings during summer, it is ridiculous.)

You can get to Monmouth from NYC by either train or boat. (The ferry is neat.) I used the train once this summer -- Haskell Day -- and I believe it took about 1 1/2 hours. The train delivers you to the backstretch of the track.

Monmouth is a speed favoring one mile oval, and a very nice place to watch the races. It draws a beach crowd, since so many people are on the Jersey Shore during the summer. It's small, though, and I'm unsure how it will hold up during Breeders' Cup week in terms of seating.

The best way to get there and not to have to deal with traffic is by boat that leaves from Manhattan.

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

yeah,
this is one point we do agree on Zeig.

I hear a lot of talk about a dirt mile for the BC.
thats fine, but then you need to lengthen the BC Distaff to 9.5 or 10f.

Repent

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Originally Posted by repent

yeah,
this is one point we do agree on Zeig.

I hear a lot of talk about a dirt mile for the BC.
thats fine, but then you need to lengthen the BC Distaff to 9.5 or 10f.

Repent

oh, we've had our share of agreements...not a whole lot, but some.

i'd like to see a dirt mile, certainly would appeal to many.

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

As long as its a TWO-TURN mile - then I'm fine with that....the intrigue with the BC Juvy IMO is to gauge next year's Triple Crown contenders, and if we make it ONE TURN than it is nothing more than a long sprint IMO - which is what we don't need....