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freddymo 02-21-2019 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1122227)
Mott is obviously holding the goods.
Hidden Scroll is a monster. Country House is good and Tacticus has every right to be good.

Bill Mott winning a derby works for me. I have to see Hidden Scroll on a dry track. Hidden Scroll certainly can handle a wet one.

ONTHERAIL 02-21-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1122217)
Gus I think March 9 will tell us a lot about the derby with Tampa Derby and San Felipe running that day.

SF loaded with 2 Bafferts and Instagrand. Tell us a lot indeed!!

Bogey 02-21-2019 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL (Post 1122269)
SF loaded with 2 Bafferts and Instagrand. Tell us a lot indeed!!

Maybe add Gunmetal Gray in the mix.

blackthroatedwind 02-21-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1122270)
Maybe add Gunmetal Grey in the mix.

We already know he's not a contender.

Bogey 02-21-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1122271)
We already know he's not a contender.

Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

knickslions2 02-21-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1122272)
Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

Gus quite a few of us will be Tampa derby. You coming up for that?

casp0555 02-21-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1122261)
Mucho working half miles and is expected in an ALW in March.

Waiting to hear back from Mrs. Lyon or Baffert about Magic On Tap, but he's not working, so I wouldn't expect anything soon.

thanks Steve...that's what I thought :(

Bogey 02-21-2019 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1122273)
Gus quite a few of us will be Tampa derby. You coming up for that?

Good deal - 90% - I'll know for sure next week.

moses 02-21-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1122227)
Mott is obviously holding the goods.
Hidden Scroll is a monster. Country House is good and Tacticus has every right to be good.

It’s probably just because I have a futures wager on him at 35-1, but I Hope Vekoma dominates him in the FoY. The field looks like it could be pretty good.

Fountain of Youth
Probables
Admire (Romans)
Vekoma (Weaver)
Hidden Scroll (Mott)
Bourbon War (Hennig)
Signalman (McPeek)
Code of Honor (McGaughey)

Possibles
Global Campaign (Hough)
Maximus Mischief (Reid)
Harvey Wallbanger (McPeek)
Mihos (Jerkens)

knickslions2 02-21-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1122276)
Good deal - 90% - I'll know for sure next week.

Nice shoot me a message if you do

Alabama Stakes 02-21-2019 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1122277)
It痴 probably just because I have a futures wager on him at 35-1, but I Hope Vekoma dominates him in the FoY. The field looks like it could be pretty good.

Fountain of Youth
Probables
Admire (Romans)
Vekoma (Weaver)
Hidden Scroll (Mott)
Bourbon War (Hennig)
Signalman (McPeek)
Code of Honor (McGaughey)

Possibles
Global Campaign (Hough)
Maximus Mischief (Reid)
Harvey Wallbanger (McPeek)
Mihos (Jerkens)

I値l take Harvey Wallbanger for $200 Alex

moses 02-21-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1122272)
Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

For Hollendorfer, I like Galilean more than GMG. That horse was 3+ wide the entire California Cup and still finished well. I believe West Point owns a piece of both horses and they値l move forward with Galilean if he outperforms GMG (assuming Galilean runs).

Given the other competition in the San Felipe, 3rd seems like a best case scenario for GMG.

Also for Hollendorfer, I知 interested to see if Rowayton does anything in 2019 and whether he値l show a little more stamina or whether he値l prove to not have the distance in him for the classics.

Bogey 02-21-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1122278)
Nice shoot me a message if you do

Without question

moses 02-21-2019 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1122279)
I値l take Harvey Wallbanger for $200 Alex

He痴 got a shot for sure. I知 on the Vekoma bandwagon but can稚 count out a handful of the horses mentioned as probables/possibles. McPeek plans to run Signalman in the FoY, and I think may rest HW and shoot for the Florida Derby with him, which may be a pretty good plan. Why push him if you think he can win the Florida Derby?

opusone 02-21-2019 12:15 PM

Yesterday. Maximum Security

blackthroatedwind 02-21-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1122272)
Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

No he isn't. He is a total mediocrity who has zero chance in a race like the Derby.

RHT2004 02-21-2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1122279)
I値l take Harvey Wallbanger for $200 Alex

He's more likely to be last.

Bogey 02-21-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1122286)
No he isn't. He is a total mediocrity who has zero chance in a race like the Derby.

I'm willing to give him a shot, especially as the distances increase down the road. He had no chance in the Bob Lewis chasing a lone front runner.

moses 02-21-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1122289)
He's more likely to be last.

HW seems to run well every race. I知 sure he could pass some tired rivals but I don稚 see him in the top tier (and there may be 2-3 very good horses in the FoY).

I知 not really impressed with any of the horses from the Holy Bull. I may cut Maximus Mischief some slack because he was off the lay-off. But so was HW.

Alabama Stakes 02-21-2019 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1122309)
HW seems to run well every race. I知 sure he could pass some tired rivals but I don稚 see him in the top tier (and there may be 2-3 very good horses in the FoY).

I知 not really impressed with any of the horses from the Holy Bull. I may cut Maximus Mischief some slack because he was off the lay-off. But so was HW.

The replays tell the story. He has run well every time and wants to compete. I like competitive types .


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