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Dunbar 11-05-2006 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
Ask to talk to the director of mutuels because they gave you incorrect numbers. And if they cannot get the director of mutuels tell them you will get a hold of your Oklahoma Congressman and find out about how licenses are revoked for the director of mutuels at the track.

If you want your money or make a point you can. I guarantee it. If they have made a mistake, or not... if you pester enough they will give you satisfaction. There are a lot of people in this state that think racing is crooked anyway. This track knows this.
This needs to be resolved. There must be a state racing commission of some sort that can be written.

--Dunbar

Scav 11-05-2006 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I keep track of all the year 2 year olds that I liked that came out of the 2 year old in training sales. There was a Stephen Got Even colt trained by Scot Blasi running at Remington last night that sold for $170,000 that I liked at the Keeneland April Sale. That was the horse I bet at Remington. I bet 4 races yesterday total at all the tracks. I bet one race at Woodbine, one at Aqueduct, one at Hollywood, and one at Remington.
LOL Rup, was joking around......going to continue reading the rest of the post

Scav 11-05-2006 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Ask to talk to the director of mutuels because they gave you incorrect numbers. And if they cannot get the director of mutuels tell them you will get a hold of your Oklahoma Congressman and find out about how licenses are revoked for the director of mutuels at the track.

If you want your money or make a point you can. I guarantee it. If they have made a mistake, or not... if you pester enough they will give you satisfaction. There are a lot of people in this state that think racing is crooked anyway. This track knows this.
My guess is that this wager was placed off shore.

Danzig 11-05-2006 06:46 PM
call the gaming commission, surely there is one? or maybe the better business bureau?? something isn't right there. get the ball rolling.

Dunbar 11-05-2006 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
My guess is that this wager was placed off shore.
Doesn't matter Scav. Rupert is talking about the numbers in the pool.

--Dunbar

ceejay 11-05-2006 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
call the gaming commission, surely there is one? or maybe the better business bureau?? something isn't right there. get the ball rolling.
http://www.ohrc.org/INTRO.HTML

ceejay 11-05-2006 07:00 PM
Maybe the missing $4.60 paid out on a slot machine or two? ;)

Rupert Pupkin 11-08-2006 06:21 PM
I'm bumping this thread up so that Steve will be able to find it. I just sent him a message about this thread so that he can read it and hopefully try to find out what is going on at Remington.

brianwspencer 11-08-2006 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
The place payoff was wrong also. there was $12,077 in the place pool. The winner had $833 bet on him to place. The second horse had $1,446 bet to place. That means the winner should have paid $11 to place yet he only paid $9.00 to place.
the win calculations do seem off, however i've done the place pool calculations more than once and keep coming up with the number your winner should have paid to place being $~9.15, not $11.

is my math bad here? where did i go wrong?

Rupert Pupkin 11-08-2006 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
the win calculations do seem off, however i've done the place pool calculations more than once and keep coming up with the number your winner should have paid to place being $~9.15, not $11.

is my math bad here? where did i go wrong?
You need to subtract 18% of $12,077 from $12,077. 18% comes out to $2174. You need to subtract the amounts bet on the 1st and 2nd finishers from the pool too. They had $833 and $1,446 on them which comes out to a total of $2,279. So after you subtract the $2,174 and $2,279 from the pool you are left with $7,624. Then you need to divide that by 2. That means that there is $3,812 left for each horse. If you have $3,812 by $833, that means that the winner should have paid 4.57-1 to place. That is 9-2 odds on the place, so the horse should have paid $11 to place.

brianwspencer 11-08-2006 07:49 PM
i did all the same things you did, coming up with $3,812 per horse.

With a total of $833 bet to place on the winner, that is 416.5 two-dollar payoffs that need to come out of that money, which equals roughly nine dollars.

i dont understand where the extra money would come from

Rupert Pupkin 11-08-2006 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
i did all the same things you did, coming up with $3,812 per horse.

With a total of $833 bet to place on the winner, that is 416.5 two-dollar payoffs that need to come out of that money, which equals roughly nine dollars.

i dont understand where the extra money would come from
You forgot to add $2. The people get their original $2 back. If a horse is 7-2, they don't pay $7. They pay $9. If a horse is 9-2, they pay $11.

If there was $883 left for the horse. He would have paid 1-1(even-money to place), which is $4.00. If there was $1766, left for the horse, the horse should pay 2-1 to place, meaning the payoff would be $6.00. If there was $2649 left for the horse, he should pay 3-1 to place, meaning $8.00. If there was $3532 left for the horse, that would be 4-1, meaning the should pay $10.00 to place.

brianwspencer 11-08-2006 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
You forgot to add $2. The people get their original $2 back. If a horse is 7-2, they don't pay $7. They pay $9. If a horse is 9-2, they pay $11.

If there was $883 left for the horse. He would have paid 1-1(even-money to place), which is $4.00. If there was $1766, left for the horse, the horse should pay 2-1 to place, meaning the payoff would be $6.00. If there was $2649 left for the horse, he should pay 3-1 to place, meaning $8.00. If there was $3532 left for the horse, that would be 4-1, meaning the should pay $10.00 to place.
gotcha, i forgot to add it back in once we subtracted it out.

my bad.


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