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Kasept 01-12-2018 04:51 PM

Deals in place on 2 of 3 Stronach-retained slots..
http://www.drf.com/news/stronach-gro...-pegasus-slots

Kasept 01-16-2018 07:16 AM

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1. Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys)
2. Collected (Speedway)
3. West Coast (West)
4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing)
5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke)
6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves)
7. War Story (Loooch)
8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore)
9. Singing Bullet (Stronach) ~ Likely
10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok)
11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch)
12. Fear the Cowboy (Amayo & Centofanti)
Fear the Cowboy set to take 3rd of the open slots.. Singing Bullet appears poised to be the Stronach runner.. Stellar Wind doing better and better and looks to be a go..

blackthroatedwind 01-16-2018 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1104927)
Fear the Cowboy set to take 3rd of the open slots.. Singing Bullet appears poised to be the Stronach runner.. Stellar Wind doing better and better and looks to be a go..

How could Singing Bullet not run after that scintillating prep?

He makes Fear the Cowboy look like Hindoo.

freddymo 01-16-2018 08:58 AM

Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys)
2. Collected (Speedway)
3. West Coast (West)
4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing)
5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke)
6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves)
7. War Story (Loooch)
8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore)
9. Singing Bullet (Stronach) ~ Likely
10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok)
11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch)
12. Fear the Cowboy (Amayo & Centofanti)


How many can win The Donn? 3 IMO, Gun Runner 3/10 West Coast 12/1 and Stellar Wind 25/1...

cakes44 01-16-2018 10:39 AM

The bottom end is the bottom of the barrel for a G1 race. Other than that, I think this race is more than a little bit interesting...mostly because SA is in. Don’t necessarily think he can win, and GP isn’t the best place to try to win at 1 1/8th on the lead in my betting experience, but he is a running motherf#%*er and will have an affect.

RHT2004 01-16-2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1104929)
Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys)
2. Collected (Speedway)
3. West Coast (West)
4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing)
5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke)
6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves)
7. War Story (Loooch)
8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore)
9. Singing Bullet (Stronach) ~ Likely
10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok)
11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch)
12. Fear the Cowboy (Amayo & Centofanti)


How many can win The Donn? 3 IMO, Gun Runner 3/10 West Coast 12/1 and Stellar Wind 25/1...

Stellar Wind can win? Sheesh

cakes44 01-16-2018 01:37 PM

It is certainly difficult envisioning a scenario where she can win. I'd honestly have a really hard time betting her to beat War Story or Gunnereva.

knickslions2 01-16-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1104934)
Stellar Wind can win? Sheesh

Unless Gun Runner has a crap day, which is unlikely as his training suggests, they are all running for second. Id be very surprised if Steller Wind gets in superfecta against these horses. Seems way over matched here.

blackthroatedwind 01-16-2018 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1104936)
It is certainly difficult envisioning a scenario where she can win. I'd honestly have a really hard time betting her to beat War Story or Gunnereva.

I would happily take a price on either or both of those.

RHT2004 01-16-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1104937)
Unless Gun Runner has a crap day, which is unlikely as his training suggests, they are all running for second. Id be very surprised if Steller Wind gets in superfecta against these horses. Seems way over matched here.

Ill bet West Coast. He is probably not good enough, but he's the one who can still move forward IMO.

freddymo 01-16-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1104934)
Stellar Wind can win? Sheesh

I think her best races are good enough and first-time Chad does not suck. She is an excellent horse on her best day, sure Gun Runner is way the horse to beat but of the rest, I would take a shot with her at 25/1 before Collected at 7/1.

richard burch 01-17-2018 10:07 PM

MOST LIKELY WINNER
1. Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys)
3. West Coast (West)
8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore) ~ Anticipated
11. Sharp Azteca (New owner pending) ~ Expected

ON A GOOD DAY
2. Collected (Speedway)
5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke)
10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border
12. Fear the Cowboy


NOT A CHANCE
6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves)
7. War Story (Loooch)
4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing)
9. Singing Bullet

Kasept 01-23-2018 03:25 AM

1. Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys) Asmussen/Geroux
2. Collected (Speedway) Baffert/Smith
3. West Coast (West) Baffert/Castellano
4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing) Sano/Saez
5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke) Stewart/J. Velazquez
6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves) Osbourne/Dettori
7. War Story (Loooch) Navarro/J. Ortiz
8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore) C. Brown/Rosario
9. Fear the Cowboy (Stronach, Frankel & Frankel, Amayo & Centofanti) Loza/Gaffalione
10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok) Eurton/Stevens
11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch) Navarro/I. Ortiz Jr.
12. Singing Bullet (The Stronach Group) Romans/Albarado

declansharbor 01-23-2018 11:23 AM

I know I cant be the only one that thinks this race sets up differently than the BCC for Gun Runner because of the early zip that's sure to be shown by Sharp Azteca (amongst others, seemingly).

This is not at all saying Gun Runner won't excel with the stalk and pounce trip, but the chase and fade trip can't fully be dismissed either. While he'll be on top of 95% of my tickets, I will also be playing the scenario that benefits a few of the closers, while keying GR and West Coast in 3rd and 4th.

Hope everyone enjoys themselves and makes some money this weekend!

Kasept 01-23-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1105158)
1. Gun Runner (Winchell/Three Chimneys) Asmussen/Geroux
2. Collected (Speedway) Baffert/Smith
3. West Coast (West) Baffert/Castellano
4. Gunnevera (Peacock Racing) Sano/Saez
5. Seeking the Soul (Fipke) Stewart/J. Velazquez
6. Toast of New York (Al Shaqab/Reeves) Osbourne/Dettori
7. War Story (Loooch) Navarro/J. Ortiz
8. Stellar Wind (Coolmore) C. Brown/Rosario
9. Fear the Cowboy (Stronach, Frankel & Frankel, Amayo & Centofanti) Loza/Gaffalione
10. Giant Expectations (Exline-Border, Gatto & Zubok) Eurton/Stevens
11. Sharp Azteca (Loooch) Navarro/I. Ortiz Jr.
12. Open ~ Singing Bullet/Giuseppe the Great/J Boys Echo

And the 12th Peg Goose is... Singing Bullet.

SniperSB23 01-24-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1105169)
And the 12th Peg Goose is... Singing Bullet.

So Rich Daddy, Flowers for Lisa, and Conquest Windycity weren't available?

Kasept 01-24-2018 11:02 AM


Kasept 01-24-2018 01:56 PM


ninetoone 01-24-2018 08:40 PM

Collected is the bet at anywhere near his BC price...

MichiganMattA 01-25-2018 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone (Post 1105188)
Collected is the bet at anywhere near his BC price...


Collected was gutted in the BC chasing a horse he’ll never catch. You should get 3x his price that day. You won’t. But you should.


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