I probably should not talk though.
Im the guy who loaded up on Grey Swallow last night.
I still think he is plodding down the final furlong as I type this 20 hours after the race went off.

I hope he was injured b/c that was just a painfully slow performace.


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He is full of it, he didn't lose 5k on that rat....

I hope you are right.


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heres my take, if you dont like the thread dont post, start your own!!! btw Lava Man is your winner.

ok,
I can still have an opinion on the subject without totally agreeing with the logic behind the initial post of the thread.

and how the hell can you think lava man will win the BCC with the handle that you use?
did you pick that handle without actually watching the horse run?


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actually, i had a vision lol, well I want Bernardini to win (or Perfect Drift). But my Tivo begs to differ. The more I watch Lava, the clearer it gets.. this horse can dig when it counts. This observation is w/o looking at compartive stats or number.. just visuals.

If Hurricane Run were to scratch,
I would think Lava Man would have a better chance of winning in the BC Turf.
thats how little of a chance I give him in the BC Classic.

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Well.....yeah sort of.
Basically I just wanted to start a thread to see if there were a lot of people who agreed with avance2000 about giacomo being an "interesting" horse in the race. I suppose I could have started the thread by just asking "What do people think about Giacomo's chances?" but I just figured I would jump right in with my opinion. As for the other longshots, if people wanted to start threads that became discussions about the horse's chances....I really would not have a problem with it. If I was interested........I would read it and if I was not......I wouldn't.
And as I said before....I really would not mind if there was a thread about every horse in the classic. I think it might help people cap the race.

Anyway scuds, I am sorry that expressing my opinion about a Kentucky Derby winner's chances in the BCC pissed you off so much. That was not my intention.

I agree 100% repent, I agree that he would have a huge shot in the turf, or even the Mile....I will be surprised if he hits the board in the BCC

You might want to watch his races outside of Cali.
And dude, your NAME is Bernardini!!!! How can you pick against him?

good gosh,
please no Brother Derek, Suave, or Super Frolic threads.

I would not have picked BroDerek to win any of those Cal Cup races today, much less the BCC.


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I agree too. He has had a great year, and if the race was at Hollywood Park he might have a legitimate chance. As it stands....I say he finishes off the board......but in front of Giacomo.

See I think a thread like that would be fun. Who will finish first among those horses? How many lengths will they be defeated by? I say let's debate mediocrity!!!!!!

you know,
I was wondering about that when watching a thing on HRTV called Pursuit of the Cup.
they were going over the contenders and I was thinking, what the hell is so tough about the BC Turf?
you take out Hurricane Run(who i am still not convinced is going to show up) and all you have is Scorpion(who has run one time in the last year), a failed European(Cacique) and English Channel.
not bad, but nothing that Lava Man could not be competitive against.
I guess they just want a shot at the bigger purse money.
thats understandable, but I dont think he hits the board either.


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unfortunately if the race was at Hollywood Park,
I think Ball Four or Asi Siempre would probably win the freaking BC Classic.
they no longer have a dirt main track.


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Given Hurricane Run's recent form...I think the 2 horses to beat in that race are EC and Cacique. Given that....wouldn't Lava Man have a better chance of trying to pull off what The Tin Man did to those two, than with whatever strategy they employ with him in the classic?

Oh.....forgot about that.....poly is spreading like the plague.....I can't keep track of where it has already struck.

who do I want and who do I think will win are two different questions..
I love Dini !!! and I want him to win...and the rest will have to wait till 11/04

disagree about your take on HR,
but yes, you are right about Lava Man.

he is 2x the turf horse the tin man ever will be.
now, I dont expect that any horse will be able to do what the Tin Man did in the Arl Million(get away with the slowest of fractions) in the BC, but I do think Lava Man would be very competitive in the BC Turf against the 2 east coast turf stars previously mentioned.


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i can think of horses i would toss before i would throw out giacomo--believe it or not, hey scuds?! at any rate, you never know with this guy. if he has the right pace, he could win it. but suit yourself.