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Secretriat34 04-21-2017 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 1089601)
I stated the point...he lost by a whisker at sa and came home faster in the final 3/8. The data you post is reverse engineering, taking a result ( ky derby ) and using a previous result ( sa derby ) to fit your criteria ( fastest closing time in prep race ) only you ignored a faster closing time. Not only that, you cherry picked derby results that fit your theory, while ignoring countless other years where the horse with the fastest closing time in a prep failed to win the derby.

maybe because i was concerned with colts that could WIN at 10f, not close fast and be slower than the winner

Port Conway Lane 04-21-2017 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1089602)
As much as I appreciate you effort here PCL, I'm afraid that you may be wasting your time explaining relevant, factual data to him.

Closing time, without any regard to pace, track variant, etc. is useless.

But we do have 3 threads to discuss it in, so there's that.
Thanks, fortunately I have time to waste. I simply couldn't stand it anymore.

Indian Charlie 04-21-2017 05:13 PM
I boldly predict that the horse who runs the fastest final time in the Kentucky Derby will be the horse that also wins it.

But I'm sure Dunbar or RTH will dispute that and call me and my reasoning far fetched.

cakes44 04-21-2017 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1089602)
As much as I appreciate you effort here PCL, I'm afraid that you may be wasting your time explaining relevant, factual data to him.

Closing time, without any regard to pace, track variant, etc. is useless.

But we do have 3 threads to discuss it in, so there's that.
This is beautifully done.

richard burch 04-22-2017 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1089565)
there we go..many thanks
when you asked your question I thought it was for THIS YEARS preps. What difference does it make knowing what horses from past derbys have run. This is 2017 with different horses! Who gives a **** what I'll have Another ran in a prep race 5 years ago?

monkeyco 04-24-2017 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1089638)
when you asked your question I thought it was for THIS YEARS preps. What difference does it make knowing what horses from past derbys have run. This is 2017 with different horses! Who gives a **** what I'll have Another ran in a prep race 5 years ago?
"Who's on first?"

Secretriat34 04-25-2017 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1089638)
when you asked your question I thought it was for THIS YEARS preps. What difference does it make knowing what horses from past derbys have run. This is 2017 with different horses! Who gives a **** what I'll have Another ran in a prep race 5 years ago?
I do.
You look to the past to see what were the winners statistics. Then you look at this years colts and try to reach a comparison of congruity between this years colts and the past winners data. If this year there is a few animals that have the stats that would have made them winners in the past, at least you know they were capable of a win in years past.

Your kinda of simple aren't you.:confused:

Secretriat34 04-25-2017 08:55 AM
try not to miss the fact that Always Dreaming ran a faster final prep than 2 time HOY California Chrome.

tywizard 04-25-2017 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1089816)
try not to miss the fact that Always Dreaming ran a faster final prep than 2 time HOY California Chrome.
Where'd you get your Derby certification?

declansharbor 04-25-2017 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1089816)
try not to miss the fact that Always Dreaming ran a faster final prep than 2 time HOY California Chrome.
You mustn't realize how asinine it is to compare final times from different tracks.

It's almost laughable.

Indian Charlie 04-25-2017 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 1089818)
You mustn't realize how asinine it is to compare final times from different tracks.

It's almost laughable.
They should have run the SA Derby down the hill.

Secretriat34 04-25-2017 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tywizard (Post 1089817)
Where'd you get your Derby certification?
I took the test and passed


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