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zippyneedsawin 10-21-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
surprised that premium taps people have decided to enter....i guess no news from suave means he won't be there.

if there speed entered, than i would use giacomo and/or perfect drift underneath. huge question mark on geo washington and david junior. DJ is the real deal, but dirt is the HUGE question mark.

i'll be pulling for pine island.
as for the juvies, i doubt point ashley is going. don't really care who wins either one.
i am looking forward to the day as a whole. only horse i really plan to 'root for' is pine island. all the others i'll just watch and enjoy the best take on each other.


i think Premium Tap deserves to be there, and I really think he hits the board if not threatens to win it! -OK, maybe a bit over-optimistic, but I really think he won't shame himself in this spot.

Danzig 10-21-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
i think Premium Tap deserves to be there, and I really think he hits the board if not threatens to win it! -OK, maybe a bit over-optimistic, but I really think he won't shame himself in this spot.

i don't mean i'm surprised due to thinking he doesn't belong...i'm just surprised since they said after his last win that they really weren't interested.

Bold Reasoning 10-21-2006 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
i don't mean i'm surprised due to thinking he doesn't belong...i'm just surprised since they said after his last win that they really weren't interested.

Maybe they think they have the better of the TWO PLEASANT TAP HORSES on the dirt.:D

brianwspencer 10-21-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning
Maybe they think they have the better of the TWO PLEASANT TAP HORSES on the dirt.:D

certainly not the better of the two pleasant tap horses overall :)

but on the dirt, he just may be.

i like the other better in the classic, though there's no fighting pleasant tap's gutsiness.

kentuckyrosesinmay 10-21-2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernardini
New to this site, unlike espn I find this board have some meaning full posts. Now to business, here are my predictions for BCC:

Juvenile Fillies: Point Ashley / Cotton Blossom
Juvenile Colts: Scat Daddy / Circular Quay
Turf F&M: Wait a While / Gorella (if she runs this race)
Sprint: Henny Hughes / Siren Lure
Mile: Aragorn / George Washington
Distaff: Balleto / Pine Island
Turf: English Channel / Cacique
Classic: Bernardini / Perfect Drift (likes CD track)

any thoughts !!!

George Washington is pointing to the Classic.

I like a lot of your picks, and will probably use a lot of the same horses.

brianwspencer 10-21-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernardini
New to this site, unlike espn I find this board have some meaning full posts. Now to business, here are my predictions for BCC:

Juvenile Fillies: Point Ashley / Cotton Blossom
Juvenile Colts: Scat Daddy / Circular Quay
Turf F&M: Wait a While / Gorella (if she runs this race)
Sprint: Henny Hughes / Siren Lure
Mile: Aragorn / George Washington
Distaff: Balleto / Pine Island
Turf: English Channel / Cacique
Classic: Bernardini / Perfect Drift (likes CD track)

any thoughts !!!

i think most of those are logical picks -- while i haven't made up my mind yet as i haven't really compared all the horses side by side with who they will be running against yet....i would say this:

Juvenile Fillies: Dreaming of Anna/Cotton Blossom (Sutra also, as slow as molasses as she is, if i decide that the pace is going to be wicked)
Juvenile: Street Sense
FM Turf: Ouija Board/Vacare as a bomber if she goes
Sprint: Bordonaro, and while I doubt she'd go, I'd take Malibu Mint in a second as well -- trying to stay away from the obvious here
Mile: Gorella
Distaff: Happy Ticket/Round Pond
Turf: Shirocco/Cacique/Better Talk Now
Classic: Invasor/David Junior/Bernardini in that order

Danzig 10-22-2006 07:31 PM

just saw news on suave, he is being pointed to the classic....will retire to stand stud in '07 for 17.5k.

hey oracle, see, they do announce fees for some before they officially retire!

dellinger63 10-22-2006 09:12 PM

Bernie, in the Classic take it from the horse's mouth or at least the trainer's. 'Bernie is the best I've had'. Good enough for me but for all nay sayers that's why there are mutual pools.

repent 10-22-2006 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning
I am playing that Classic exacta. I am also playing Bernardini on top of Giacomo. The grey guy likes Churchill, too.:D I agree on the Distaff. Is George Washington in the Mile????


Im not an exotics player in the form of exactas, tris, or anything else.
I play w/p and pick 4s.
so what I say in this area may be completely worthless.
but if I had to play one exacta for the entire day, as of now, it would be Bernardini/David Junior boxed.
they seem like the 2 most logical 1-2 finishers of the entire day.


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dellinger63 10-22-2006 09:25 PM

Pent no value. Enjoy the race or not from a fan point of view and single in pic 3 4 and 6's.
Run Hillary run is on my front right bumper!
Hope all is well.

repent 10-22-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Pent no value. Enjoy the race or not from a fan point of view and single in pic 3 4 and 6's.
Run Hillary run is on my front right bumper!
Hope all is well.

yeah,
no value.
well, it will pay something if DJ comes in, but its not something I am going to invest in.
like I said, I simply dont play exactas, tris, or supers.

lol, awesome sticker. I hope she does run. would be a lot of fun to watch her humiliate herself over the course of an entire campaign.

all is well, back in TX now.
hope all is ok for you.
you are still in Chicago right?
sucks that the IL Horseman's association could work something out with TVG.
I still watch The Thorne on HRTV, but I wish it was on TVG.
is there any talk of it around the track?

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Cajungator26 10-22-2006 09:39 PM

I plan on putting $50 WP on Happy Ticket and although many are disagreeing, I think that Perfect Drift has got a good shot to win the BCC. :D

repent 10-22-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I plan on putting $50 WP on Happy Ticket and although many are disagreeing, I think that Perfect Drift has got a good shot to win the BCC. :D

you know,
I disagree with the selection, but the Happy Ticket thing is not totally off.

she beat what I considered the best older female at the time at Churchill Downs earlier this year at the same distance of the BCD.

PDrift is a very game performer, but when you cant hold off Seek Gold, you are not going to beat Bernardini.


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tycharles01 10-22-2006 09:46 PM

The only given so far is Exacta in the Turf

Cacique/EC just wondering how much it will pay??

Cacique 3/1
EC 4/1???

dellinger63 10-22-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by repent
yeah,
no value.
well, it will pay something if DJ comes in, but its not something I am going to invest in.
like I said, I simply dont play exactas, tris, or supers.

lol, awesome sticker. I hope she does run. would be a lot of fun to watch her humiliate herself over the course of an entire campaign.

all is well, back in TX now.
hope all is ok for you.
you are still in Chicago right?
sucks that the IL Horseman's association could work something out with TVG.
I still watch The Thorne on HRTV, but I wish it was on TVG.
is there any talk of it around the track?

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Most here see Hawthorne and laugh. Haven't made a wager there all year. Splitting time between Chi. and Lake Geneva as that's where the G/F and kids live. Saw a black bear this w/e up north though. Can't hunt though as I'd rather kill a human than an animal.

repent 10-22-2006 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Most here see Hawthorne and laugh. Haven't made a wager there all year. Splitting time between Chi. and Lake Geneva as that's where the G/F and kids live. Saw a black bear this w/e up north though. Can't hunt though as I'd rather kill a human than an animal.

lmao,

thats the best line Ive read since I have been on this forum.

I like betting Hawthorne b/c it has a dirt track and a turf course.
thats something I cant say about every track running at this time of year.
forget Woodbine,
forget KEE,
and now forget Hollypark.


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repent 10-22-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tycharles01
The only given so far is Exacta in the Turf

Cacique/EC just wondering how much it will pay??

Cacique 3/1
EC 4/1???

you know thats totally dependent on who shows from Europe.
if Shirocco and a few other show, you would get at least that.
if not,
then those are going to be your 2 favs.

what sucks is that the Tin Man is not running.
he would have taken a lot of stupid(and a mean really stupid) money.


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tycharles01 10-22-2006 09:55 PM

I know the odds wont be high but I have no problem hammering that Ex

15 for 2 would be great,

repent 10-22-2006 10:13 PM

for what its worth (not much b/c I will not cap it until Nov 3 at 6PM), but here are initial thoughts.

BCJ-dont really care, but go with CQuay. if nothing else, it will p*ss the polytrack guys off.
BCJF-really dont care. PAshley if she runs. I have a friend named Ashley and she is really hot.
BCMFT-go deep. Vacare has a shot to hit at a price.
BCS-Bordonaro seems the most likely winner.
BCM-Librettist. Aussie Rules and Gorella rounding out the tri.
BCD-Spun Sugar. same reason as CQuay and I think she is the best of the Pletcher fillies.
BCT-uh, who is coming? Shirocco if he runs. If not, English Channel is the best of the US horses.
BCC-Bernardini. DJunior is the unknown and the next most likely winner. what does that say about the field as compared to Bernardini?



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