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OldDog 12-04-2015 03:47 PM

Journalism!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ms...rticle/2577662

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi89...ature=youtu.be

joeydb 12-04-2015 05:52 PM


joeydb 12-04-2015 06:08 PM


Danzig 12-04-2015 07:00 PM

Im surprised they let anyone in there already.

pointman 12-04-2015 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1049307)
There have been 355 mass shootings in the USA this year so far. That's more than 1 a day.

But apparently, Syrian refugees are what we should all be scared of.


If it wasn't clear to the vast majority of people of how big of an idiot you really are, you left no doubt here.

Heels1989 12-04-2015 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 1049497)
If it wasn't clear to the vast majority of people of how big of an idiot you really are, you left no doubt here.

Come on Nic. I think I know you well enough to know you are better than this. I have had the pleasure of meeting and spending time with Nicole at Pimlico a few years back. I can assure you, she is far from an idiot. You can disagree with her politics. That's fine. How about some civil, healthy debate. If I shared a similar opinion, hypothetical or not, would you call me an idiot? I would hope not.

Danzig 12-05-2015 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heels1989 (Post 1049499)
Come on Nic. I think I know you well enough to know you are better than this. I have had the pleasure of meeting and spending time with Nicole at Pimlico a few years back. I can assure you, she is far from an idiot. You can disagree with her politics. That's fine. How about some civil, healthy debate. If I shared a similar opinion, hypothetical or not, would you call me an idiot? I would hope not.

:$:
:tro:

Danzig 12-05-2015 11:47 AM

He is right on this, it is insane.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-ren...ls-gun-control


The fact this failed is absolutely indefensible and is truly mind boggling.

saratogadew 12-06-2015 02:31 PM

If your too busy to tune into our leader's speech tonight, I'll give you the talking points.
5 minutes will be spent on the fairytale 60 nation coalition to defeat ISIL.
25 minutes will be extolling american values as an all inclusive nation.
5 minutes on the bad guns that caused this incident to happen, and the new gun laws that are needed.

OldDog 12-07-2015 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1049544)

No, it's deflection. 64% of Americans disapprove of Obama's handling of ISIS, and his (and Hillary's) foreign policy regarding Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are abject failures, so he's falling back on his favorite boogieman.

Keeping those on the no-fly list from buying guns sounds right, doesn't it?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/op...terrorism.html

But wait -- just a year ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/19/op...?_r=1&referer=

But hey, these might be dangerous folks, right? Including the 72 Department of Homeland Security employees who are on the list? Why haven't they been fired? Why haven't the hundreds of thousands on the list been arrested? Detained? Snap! Due process.

Who wasn't on the no-fly list? The San Bernardino shooters. The Fort Hood shooter. The Chattanooga shooter. The Boston bombers.

So once again our President proposes something which sounds like it might be effective, but wouldn't have prevented that with which he justifies it. No thanks, I am not in favor of the government denying second amendment rights based on a secret list that only they control.

Danzig 12-07-2015 09:35 AM

so you think that an event like this shouldn't be used to go after others not tied to the event? not used to make a blanket policy?

OldDog 12-07-2015 09:40 AM

See if this opinion piece helps to convey my thinking. I have a helluvalotta respect for the author.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...re-terrorists/

jms62 12-07-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1049754)
See if this opinion piece helps to convey my thinking. I have a helluvalotta respect for the author.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...re-terrorists/

I don't agree if it can save 1 life but I do see your point.. Complicated.

Danzig 12-07-2015 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1049755)
I don't agree if it can save 1 life but I do see your point.. Complicated.

of course it's complicated.
that's the issue with many things, there are no easy answers. and we all want them, don't we?
seems on the face of it, that if someone is deemed to dangerous to fly in or out of country, they should be too dangerous to buy a gun. but who decides who is on the list, and how do they decide?
same as if someone is mentally ill, who decides?

and as we know from past experience, any and every program under the sun has people who abuse it, and people who use it for their own personal vendettas.

OldDog 12-14-2015 04:42 PM

Secret US Policy Blocks Agents From Looking at Social Media of Visa Applicants, Former Official Says

http://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-us-p...refer_homepage

“It was primarily a question of optics,” said Cohen. “There were concerns from a privacy and civil liberties perspective that while this was not illegal, that it would be viewed negatively if it was disclosed publicly.”

Another former counter-terrorism official cosigned Cohen’s frustration.

“Why the State Department and Homeland Security Department have not leveraged the power of social media is beyond me.” . . .

Danzig 12-14-2015 05:21 PM

That's so stupid...public postings aren't a privacy issue at all. Unbelievable.

joeydb 12-16-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1050460)
That's so stupid...public postings aren't a privacy issue at all. Unbelievable.

Stupidity is central to political correctness in general, and to the policies of this administration in particular.

jms62 12-16-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1050565)
Stupidity is central to political correctness in general, and to the policies of this administration in particular.

Wait until Hillary is running the show if you think it is bad now.

joeydb 12-16-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1050568)
Wait until Hillary is running the show if you think it is bad now.

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein


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