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Merlinsky 11-01-2015 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bare it all (Post 1046950)
@raypaulick: After 15 years & 1,000+ starters as owner, @MattressMack had 0 G1 wins. Then @IMariaValentine won G1 King's Bishop, BC Sprint w Runhappy

I bet the sister-in-law wants a G1 on her resume too and this is a quick way to get it.

An argument with Mac's sister-in-law is totally gonna get you canned (was it over whether he was sound for something like the Malibu?) and I can believe they've been trying to tell her what to do since the King's Bishop. They didn't know he was gonna do this well and when he did, they thought they could just make her a figurehead but being a person of substance she didn't wanna roll over and compromise her principles. I don't buy for a minute that there was absolutely no physical issue. Who'd know Runhappy inside and out better than Maria with her experience? Maybe it ended up not being as serious, but nothing? Nah. They probably didn't think they could get away with firing her before. Turns out Laura Wohlers allegedly found and initially trained Runhappy and got too busy at the store or something? http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...030-story.html Seriously, lady, work at a store, train horses, one or the other. Not someone I'd want training if she's also focused on the family business.

Seattleallstar 11-02-2015 12:49 AM

I only knew this guy from Wimbeldon and the money he pumped in with Baffert. I also remember they had a horse named Work purchased for 950k and was deemed a special horse before it ran, then the horse was injured

tanner12oz 11-02-2015 05:34 AM

From a betting perspective this horse appears to be a total bet against next out. Can't imagine the training routine and what got them to this point ain't gonna be flipped upside down.

was with a guy who met Maria after the post draw..got his pic taken..said she was all class. Hopefully she lands on her feet

bare it all 11-02-2015 12:55 PM

If anyone's following along, they did end up joggin the horse this morning.

@RuffianIsQueen: #Runhappy jogged 2 miles this morning, most on his own! He's such an amazing horse despite how the fandom wants to see. #GoHap!

Arletta 11-02-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bare it all (Post 1047034)
If anyone's following along, they did end up joggin the horse this morning.

@RuffianIsQueen: #Runhappy jogged 2 miles this morning, most on his own! He's such an amazing horse despite how the fandom wants to see. #GoHap!

The odds of this horse making it's next race are getting slimmer each passing day.

bare it all 11-02-2015 01:54 PM

Just gross. I can't imagine they won't pay the girl? Or maybe I can.

http://www.drf.com/news/preview/bore...happys-trainer

Jasper131 11-02-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bare it all (Post 1047039)
Just gross. I can't imagine they won't pay the girl? Or maybe I can.

http://www.drf.com/news/preview/bore...happys-trainer

Taking the horse away is one thing -- it makes no sense in a vacuum but this is what he does. It's terrible but it's not new to this owner.

But not paying the trainer is a totally different and lower low.

10 pnt move up 11-02-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasper131 (Post 1047040)
Taking the horse away is one thing -- it makes no sense in a vacuum but this is what he does. It's terrible but it's not new to this owner.

But not paying the trainer is a totally different and lower low.

Does it work like that? I thought the track held the money and distributed it to jockey and trainer, just to avoid this sort of thing.

blackthroatedwind 11-02-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1047041)
Does it work like that? I thought the track held the money and distributed it to jockey and trainer, just to avoid this sort of thing.

No. The trainers get paid by the owners.

DonGuido 11-02-2015 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasper131 (Post 1047040)
Taking the horse away is one thing -- it makes no sense in a vacuum but this is what he does. It's terrible but it's not new to this owner.

But not paying the trainer is a totally different and lower low.

I'd like to say what I really think of him but then I get banned.:mad::eek:

Arletta 11-02-2015 04:38 PM

Maria's new FB Page.

https://www.facebook.com/Team-Maria-900645973357934/

10 pnt move up 11-02-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1047042)
No. The trainers get paid by the owners.

ha, really seems like something that could be exploited.

pmayjr 11-02-2015 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1047051)

It's na page devoted to her, but pretty sure it's not officially jer's. Just someone trying to support her cause. Kinda like the dolts that make Twitter pages representing a horse.

Arletta 11-02-2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 1047056)
It's na page devoted to her, but pretty sure it's not officially jer's. Just someone trying to support her cause. Kinda like the dolts that make Twitter pages representing a horse.

She's the one that sent me the link.

pmayjr 11-03-2015 10:47 AM

Oh wow to me it read like a page by fans to support her.

Arletta 11-03-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 1047077)
Oh wow to me it read like a page by fans to support her.

It is.. I was just saying she is the one that mentioned it.

Here is her personal one.https://www.facebook.com/IamMariaValentine?fref=nf

casp0555 11-03-2015 03:49 PM

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/br...hat-i-am-owed/

bare it all 11-03-2015 04:55 PM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...es-purse-money

Merlinsky 11-03-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bare it all (Post 1047092)

You know, I almost expected that and said 'you watch, they'll try to get out of paying her,' but I thought maybe I was just being overly cynical. Nope. It's like they're following a script of how to look even worse than they just did. Yeah, Mac, she wasn't your private trainer. You were just the only big fish she had. Pay up, loser. :$:

Mike A 11-03-2015 09:07 PM

Just wondering why she wasn't getting the trainers part of the purse since the first time Runhappy won, or am I missing something? I thought the norm was a monthly billing. I'm thinking I'd at least be looking for a check from winning a Gr1 at Saratoga


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