Buy on mystery sell on history.

A better question is 225k for AP first year vs. Frankel who I think was 100k pound sterling.. How does that happen.

Only a few breeding to race that aren't Coolemoore or Zayat mares will go to him at 225K. Because it makes no sense

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...-fee/75102180/

There's a bet for this.

i wonder what the line is for tomsula and the 49er's gm to be fired...

So they arent breeding back Ivan to M'Doro? Wow think that thru they have a brilliant Filly and they arent going back to the stallion and paying up on the fee. It's breeding.... nuts

Empire Maker is standing for 100,000 at Gainesway, NO WAY in Hell I pay more to breed to Pioneer of the Nile!! American Pharoah is a phenom so I can see the excitement of his first crop, especially considering what Ghostzapper stood for and Pharoah did significantly more, but the bargain of the bloodline is the original, proven source, I'd book Empire Maker !

Has Gainesway confirmed a price on Empire Maker? If it's $100k, that's a gross underpricing of the stallion in comparison. They'll book full that 135 limit in hours.

That's what DRF was tweeting.

Only a baseless guess.....$250,000

Official. 200k

(emphasis added)

If we're talking about on-track performances, I don't think I'd agree that AP did more than Ghostzapper.

http://www1.drf.com/row/pps/ghostzapper.pdf

Wow. That is some roster.. Uncle Mo, Munnings and Declaration are strong 'next generation' stallions.. and Stay Thirsty is going to hit too based on the early sales.

And emboldened by the success of their fiercest rival, Darley went out and snatched a stallion for the future...Nyquist! Who of course happens to be by a Coolmore stallion.

I'm shocked but not. What would make a breeder go to Pharoah (unproven at 200k) and POTN ($125k and not so hot once you get past Pharoah) when you can go to Empire Maker for the "bargain basement deal" of $100k? Mind boggling, this breeding business.

...and I was so busy oggling Pharoah's fee I completely missed Scat Daddy going from $35k to $100k? :$::eek::wf

What would American Pharoah's fee have been if he was whisked away after the Belmont? Gotta be lower right?

I should have wagered