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Danzig 01-29-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1013939)
Charged with a Felony but Chapa insists the picture was photo-shopped.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...ed-buzzer-use/

suuuuure it was.
when he got busted the second time, he should have gotten a lifetime ban.

Arletta 01-29-2015 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1014069)
suuuuure it was.
when he got busted the second time, he should have gotten a lifetime ban.

This should apply to ALL cheating in the game.. Trainers included.

dagolfer33 01-29-2015 05:44 PM

On ABC national news right now.........

Danzig 01-29-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1014078)
This should apply to ALL cheating in the game.. Trainers included.

:tro:

Im all for giving someone a second chance. But a third, fourth, etc? No

Rudeboyelvis 01-29-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 1014102)
On ABC national news right now.........

All. Over. Twitter. I mean insane right now. And just in time for the Derby Trail.

Peta vid 2.0 :(

saratogadew 01-30-2015 06:07 AM

This story was on the ABC nightly news at 6:30 last night. You know the media will have fun with this one. During the Derby Trail they will throw out questions like " I wonder how many Jockeys use these buzzers that don't get caught"?. Or, "could this be common practice on the race track"? You know its coming.

saratogadew 01-30-2015 06:11 AM

And they will do away with the term buzzer. Its to mild. It will now be " a high voltage shock device"

Arletta 01-30-2015 02:33 PM

Danny Pish "Shocked" over allegations :rolleyes:

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/pe...r-allegations/

dagolfer33 01-30-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1014108)
All. Over. Twitter. I mean insane right now. And just in time for the Derby Trail.

Peta vid 2.0 :(

...one other thing, whatever cameras they used to spot that buzzer, I wish they would use them to show the actual races on tv. Sam Houston is the grainiest non-defined resolution of any track shown.:zz:

Arletta 01-30-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 1014174)
...one other thing, whatever cameras they used to spot that buzzer, I wish they would use them to show the actual races on tv. Sam Houston is the grainiest non-defined resolution of any track shown.:zz:

Emerald Downs is pretty bad too.

Danzig 03-03-2015 09:40 AM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apa?source=rss

why just a five year ban? why are repeat violators not just shown the door?! the sport doesn't need them!!


The stewards ruled that Chapa violated four rules or racing: possession of contraband, influence of race prohibited, unlawful influence on racing, and inhumane treatment of horse or Greyhound.


The latest suspension is the third for Chapa for attempting to alter the outcome of a horse's performance during a race. During his first year as a jockey, Chapa was suspended for nine months in Texas for possession of contraband intended to increase or decrease the speed of his horse after he told investigators he used a nail on his horse. In 2007 he was suspended five years in New Mexico for possession of an electrical device and was reinstated on a probationary basis in May 2011 prior to completion of the suspension.


reprehensible repeat behaviors. he should never be allowed back.

pointman 03-03-2015 10:32 AM

I guess he learned his lesson the last time he was suspended for five years, why increase it when he does the same thing? :rolleyes:

casp0555 03-03-2015 10:34 AM

he needs to look for a new line of work

Danzig 03-03-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 1017891)
I guess he learned his lesson the last time he was suspended for five years, why increase it when he does the same thing? :rolleyes:

it is beyond absurd.

would the sport miss him if he was ruled off forever? of course not.

who does it serve if he's allowed back? again?

Rupert Pupkin 03-03-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1017890)
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apa?source=rss

why just a five year ban? why are repeat violators not just shown the door?! the sport doesn't need them!!

I think the truth of the matter is that the use of buzzers is so common that it's not even considered a big deal. The authorities have to act like it's a big deal but I don't think they truly think it's a big deal. How widespread is the use of buzzers? Since the year 2000, there have been 53 guys caught. I bet guys are caught less than 1% of the time, so there are probably thousands of instances of guys doing it. I had no idea that the use was still so widespread until seeing that statistic that there have been 53 cases since the year 2000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/sp...cing.html?_r=1

Cannon Shell 03-03-2015 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1017890)
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apa?source=rss

why just a five year ban? why are repeat violators not just shown the door?! the sport doesn't need them!!


The stewards ruled that Chapa violated four rules or racing: possession of contraband, influence of race prohibited, unlawful influence on racing, and inhumane treatment of horse or Greyhound.


The latest suspension is the third for Chapa for attempting to alter the outcome of a horse's performance during a race. During his first year as a jockey, Chapa was suspended for nine months in Texas for possession of contraband intended to increase or decrease the speed of his horse after he told investigators he used a nail on his horse. In 2007 he was suspended five years in New Mexico for possession of an electrical device and was reinstated on a probationary basis in May 2011 prior to completion of the suspension.


reprehensible repeat behaviors. he should never be allowed back.

I believe that is the max they are allowed to give

Cannon Shell 03-03-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1017902)
I think the truth of the matter is that the use of buzzers is so common that it's not even considered a big deal. The authorities have to act like it's a big deal but I don't think they truly think it's a big deal. How widespread is the use of buzzers? Since the year 2000, there have been 53 guys caught. I bet guys are caught less than 1% of the time, so there are probably thousands of instances of guys doing it. I had no idea that the use was still so widespread until seeing that statistic that there have been 53 cases since the year 2000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/sp...cing.html?_r=1

53 may be a fictional number

Danzig 03-03-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1017902)
I think the truth of the matter is that the use of buzzers is so common that it's not even considered a big deal. The authorities have to act like it's a big deal but I don't think they truly think it's a big deal. How widespread is the use of buzzers? Since the year 2000, there have been 53 guys caught. I bet guys are caught less than 1% of the time, so there are probably thousands of instances of guys doing it. I had no idea that the use was still so widespread until seeing that statistic that there have been 53 cases since the year 2000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/sp...cing.html?_r=1

i find that hard to believe...and i've never thought that's a good excuse to do it...that everyone does it.

http://www.jockeyclub.com/default.asp?section=FB&area=6

53 guys caught.... from 2000 to 2014. total number of races in that time span?
820, 114.
that's one buzzer for every 15,473 races in this country.
so..widespread use?
doesn't look that way to me.

Pants II 03-03-2015 01:49 PM

Need TSA at the race tracks to stop this insanity.

Danzig 03-03-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 1017903)
I believe that is the max they are allowed to give

jockey ron franklin got a lifetime ban for personal drug use...
but a guy can repeatedly mistreat a horses, and can't get a lifetime ban? that is...insane.


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