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Seattleallstar 09-30-2014 11:41 AM

Whichever between the trio of SB, CC wins the BC Classic. That will be my choice for horse of the year. I was thinking of Tonalist, but if I were to consider him if he wins the BC Classic, I also would have to be fair to Bayern who I don't think should be horse of the year if he wins BC Classic, but he definitely has to be given consideration

NTamm1215 09-30-2014 11:45 AM

Pretty amazing there's a good chance this will be the first time since 2007 that the HOTY will be the BC Classic winner.

casp0555 09-30-2014 11:53 AM

I agree with IC....Shared Belief or Chrome. Concerns are how much the AA took out of SB and if Chrome can run back close to his TC form before the Belmont.
Wise Dan is a sentimental fav of course...:)

my miss storm cat 09-30-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1000142)
Pretty amazing there's a good chance this will be the first time since 2007 that the HOTY will be the BC Classic winner.

If Close Hatches wins the Spinster and the Distaff and her record is perfect for the year (5 G1s and a G3), would you say it's likely that she'll win HOY ONLY IF some longshot jumps up and takes the Classic?

I have only followed the sport since 2004 but I don't remember it ever being so wide open (all year I was kinda hoping for Palace Malice, but alas...)

Arletta 09-30-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1000145)
If Close Hatches wins the Spinster and the Distaff and her record is perfect for the year (5 G1s and a G3), would you say it's likely that she'll win HOY ONLY IF some longshot jumps up and takes the Classic?

I have only followed the sport since 2004 but I don't remember it ever being so wide open (all year I was kinda hoping for Palace Malice, but alas...)

You know he is un-retired right? :)

my miss storm cat 09-30-2014 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1000148)
You know he is un-retired right? :)

Yes. :)

NTamm1215 09-30-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1000145)
If Close Hatches wins the Spinster and the Distaff and her record is perfect for the year (5 G1s and a G3), would you say it's likely that she'll win HOY ONLY IF some longshot jumps up and takes the Classic?

I have only followed the sport since 2004 but I don't remember it ever being so wide open (all year I was kinda hoping for Palace Malice, but alas...)

Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.

10 pnt move up 09-30-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1000151)
Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.

There is no way Wise Dan can win right, his record this year is well...........kinda weak.

RockHardTen1985 09-30-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1000152)
There is no way Wise Dan can win right, his record this year is well...........kinda weak.

I dont think he can win. I dont care if he wins his next two starts.
With Kingman out now the Mile looks soft anyway, unless there is another Euro monster that I dont know about. I guess if they ran Wise Dan in the Classic and he won, that would be a different story.

King Glorious 09-30-2014 08:54 PM

Shared Belief on both accounts.

Bogey 09-30-2014 10:20 PM

It's Shared Belief's to lose at this point, but Tonalist has an outside shot.

RockHardTen1985 09-30-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 1000178)
It's Shared Belief's to lose at this point, but Tonalist has an outside shot.

How is it not Bayern, Shared Belief, Tonalist or Chromes to lose?? If any of them win the Classic they should be HOY.

Indian Charlie 10-01-2014 08:27 AM

Bayern ain't winning the classic, and even if he miraculously did, it would still be a stretch for him to win HOY.

my miss storm cat 10-01-2014 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1000151)
Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.

I would love to see Wise Dan win it for a third time but yeah I do agree. Don't think it's going to happen.

Gotta say I'm a little baffled by some of the Shared Belief comments. Don't get me wrong, he is amazing, but I don't see how he is more deserving than say California Chrome.

4 wins from 4 starts, including one allowance race, the Los Al Derby and sure... 2 G1s wins. All were at Cali tracks.

Compare this to CC...7 starts, 5 wins of which 3 were G1s... ran at Churchill, Belmont, Parx, Pimlico and at home... how is SB more deserving?

Maybe it's me...

cal828 10-01-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1000203)
I would love to see Wise Dan win it for a third time but yeah I do agree. Don't think it's going to happen.

Gotta say I'm a little baffled by some of the Shared Belief comments. Don't get me wrong, he is amazing, but I don't see how he is more deserving than say California Chrome.

4 wins from 4 starts, including one allowance race, the Los Al Derby and sure... 2 G1s wins. All were at Cali tracks.

Compare this to CC...7 starts, 5 wins of which 3 were G1s... ran at Churchill, Belmont, Parx, Pimlico and at home... how is SB more deserving?

Maybe it's me...

Not that I know much about it, but I got the impression in the past that the big consideration was G-1s at the classic distance of a mile and a quarter or greater. I think that Tonalist, Shared Belief and CC all have 2 each now.

Indian Charlie 10-01-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cal828 (Post 1000207)
Not that I know much about it, but I got the impression in the past that the big consideration was G-1s at the classic distance of a mile and a quarter or greater. I think that Tonalist, Shared Belief and CC all have 2 each now.

SB only has the Del Mar race for the classic distance wins.

Though, obviously if he wins the BCC, that will make it two.

cal828 10-01-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1000210)
SB only has the Del Mar race for the classic distance wins.

Though, obviously if he wins the BCC, that will make it two.

Yes, I was mistaken. I just looked at that.

freddymo 10-01-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1000151)
Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.

Untappable wins the Distaff Close Hatches is a fraud she has not run a fast race ever. IF Beholder doesnt run loose Untappable will crush these hacks

freddymo 10-01-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 1000203)
I would love to see Wise Dan win it for a third time but yeah I do agree. Don't think it's going to happen.

Gotta say I'm a little baffled by some of the Shared Belief comments. Don't get me wrong, he is amazing, but I don't see how he is more deserving than say California Chrome.

4 wins from 4 starts, including one allowance race, the Los Al Derby and sure... 2 G1s wins. All were at Cali tracks.

Compare this to CC...7 starts, 5 wins of which 3 were G1s... ran at Churchill, Belmont, Parx, Pimlico and at home... how is SB more deserving?

Maybe it's me...

Cal Chrome will be eating sushi in Japan before he wins another race

my miss storm cat 10-01-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1000265)
Cal Chrome will be eating sushi in Japan before he wins another race

Why thank you, Freddy, for the charming and astonishingly kind thought.

Any predictions on HOY or would you rather predict what kind (of sushi) will be his favorite?


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