lava man and bernardini are comparable to war admiral and seabiscuit?!?! now that's a hoot! oh lord...next it'll be nashua and swaps. affirmed and alydar. sonny and cher...oh wait, maybe not that last set!!

this is insane comparing Seabiscuit to Lava Man what an insult to Biscuit

That's right!! If he wins the BCC i'll concede he's the best. However, I have my doubts about the Bernardini crowd if he loses. I'm sure it'll be excuse city if he doesn't win.

only horse that belongs with those great name is Bernardini

So, you're saying that Bernardini is great? He's run 7 times... I'm sorry, but I just can't concede to him being a great horse after 7 starts.

ditto. i guess im just hard to impress. :D

Actually the bigger insult goes to War Admiral than to Seabiscuit in the Bernardini-Lava Man comparison.

Take a close look at Seabiscuit's race record...a lower winning percentage for his career than Lava Man at this time and probably if you look at the stakes races, fewer Grade 1 equivalent wins than Lava Man over a longer career. The Grade 1's that I see for Seabiscuit are the HGC, SA 'Cap, Pimlico Special and maybe the San Juan Capistrano when it was run on dirt.

What separates Seabiscuit from Lava Man and potentially any other handicap horse in this era are the times of his races and the weights that he carried. Those factors made him wildly special (plus beating a Triple Crown winner mano-a-mano) and an absolute legend for all-time.

To compare Bernardini to War Admiral at this stage of Bernardini's career is just plain nuts in my opinion. War Admiral won the equivalent of at least 6 of today's Grade 1's and probably 7 as the Widener was Hialeah's signature race during its golden era as well as being a Triple Crown winner.

i also am more amazed at comparing bernardini to war admiral. how many records did WA set? broke more than one of his old mans....belmont record set with 1/4th of one hoof ripped off and blood flying with every step. the injury was so severe they thought they might have to retire him...

Good God...I said on a "smaller scale"...some of you look to bitch about something, I swear...the stories are VERY similar to me if you institute modern day racing with the way racing was back then in the depression era....

Cunningham,

Dick Jerardi at DRF validated you anyway with an article entitled "Lava Man: The Seabiscuit of Today." Just do a DRF archive search for this year soon after the running of the HGC. I wouldn't let mean-spirited people get you down.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Holy cow..ITS A FIGURE OF SPEECH!!! Hell, Brother Derek will be 25-1 so theorectically he has a "chance", although all analysts will say he has NO chance, but obviously somebody will bet on the horse - get it?

Some people on this board.....wow :eek:

Remember the Seabiscuit story..nobody gave him a chance to beat War Admiral from a non-literal standpoint...

Pillow Pants would knock sliced bread, and then wine about the butter he spreads on it.....some people are just like that

Every analyst says he has no chance? Where are your sources?

You'd kill a girl just to take her place in the harem, you insufferable jackass.

You'd have been the one on the sidelines booing the Biscuit... you of little faith...

Again my slow friend, 'every' is a figure of speech.....geez...unbelievalbe....:rolleyes:

Hey now! Lets talk about something we can all agree on... Cajun looks good in lace and whiskey. And Pink Floyd was neither pink nor named Floyd.

LMAO! :eek:

How did I get brought into this?! :D

Well I certainly wasnt going to use myself as the scape goat!