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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 987874)

Well the dirt horses dominated.
6-1, 30-1, 42-1, 56-1.

Will be interesting to see how this race is charted.

As charts it is dealt with as two separate races.

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 987444)

I've been playing Friday nights - not as regularly as I'd like but I am not passing up a 14% horizontal rake. One of the best values available today. It also helps that a some of the Tampa trainers/jocks summer there, so there's a built-in familiarity with some of the horses/trainers/riders.
Love the small track feel, and Paul Allen's calls are contagious - I really enjoy the overall product.

Certainly didn't mean to disparage the track, and I totally agree with your points. The fact that I can see live racing is a total bonus. (moved here 3 months ago) But the pools are certainly limited. Love Paul Allen from the Viking broadcasts and believe is underated as a race caller. Plus Grunder is on the grounds as well. Its all good!

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 987882)

Considering the dirt race was only an 8 horse field -- and the shortest price dirt horse won the race at 6/1 ... what a great bargain that price was if you...

A.) You knew the dirt horses would get to the wire first, as they logically were supposed to do.

B.) Liked the clear-cut favorite in the dirt race, and thought he was a deserving favorite.

Assuming you came to those conclusions ... that race offered a tremendous betting opportunity.

Take the betting favorite (of the dirt horses) ...wheel him over the only other 7 dirt horses and you get...

Exacta: $462.20

Trifecta: $11,373.80

Superfecta: $1,591.53 for every 10-cents ($15,915.30 for a buck)

If you think about it, those are big exotic prices for a race with just an 8-horse field where the post time favorite won. The 5th choice finished 2nd. And the 6th choice finished 3rd.

Wasted opportunity, I guess. Race seemed so gimmicky and weird, that it was hard to trust what "Abt 8.5 furlongs on the Turf" actually meant in terms of gate placement.

Doug, read on the Canterbury blog that the turf race was one mile and 90 yards, so actually 20 yds. shorter than 1 1/16 miles.

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Originally Posted by rgustafson (Post 987965)

Doug, read on the Canterbury blog that the turf race was one mile and 90 yards, so actually 20 yds. shorter than 1 1/16 miles.

Also stated that if it is held next year. The turf race would be at 1mile 70.

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Originally Posted by JohnGalt1 (Post 987969)

Also stated that if it is held next year. The turf race would be at 1mile 70.

I think Canterbury Park should talk to a speed figure maker, if they want to ever pull a race like this off. They should reach out to CJ and talk to him.

Surfaces change speed from day to day.

Tweaking the distance won't solve it, unless the two surfaces play to the same variant as they did yesterday.

Also, the turf horses were a more classy group of horses than the dirt horses, yesterday.

The Turf horses were open $7,500 claimers. The dirt horses were $5,000 claimers, which haven't won two races in the last six months.

The fact that the turf horses had better form -- is probably a reason why people foolishly considered them.

Here's the video replay of the race -- the gates appeared to open first in the turf race -- but even with that advantage, the dirt horses still owned the race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJHqR8QLP4

The horse who finished 6th out of 8 in the dirt ... beat every single one of the 12 turf horses.

I thought the turf horses were virtually dead money, so it was a great bet from that perspective. But of course I didn't bet the dirt horse that won.....