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cakes44 07-27-2014 04:53 PM

Yeah...whoa.

Seattleallstar 07-27-2014 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 989692)
Impressive? 8 other dolts let him get 3/4 in 1:11 on a lone lead?

Yeah, I wold love to see them run him longer so I can bet against him.

lol you have a point, Kaleem Shah and Baffert have received gifts this weekend with loose lead horses

Pants II 07-27-2014 05:01 PM

It was a spectacular performance. The break wasn't that good so take that into account.

When asked...the horse shot like a cannon.

ateamstupid 07-27-2014 05:16 PM

With those fractions and trip on that biased track, there was absolutely no way the horse was going to lose. I hope he goes in the Travers so I can bet against him with both fists.

Pants II 07-27-2014 05:19 PM

I understand that the pace was slow but the two horses that were going to be pressuring him attempted to do so early in the race.

Bayern is a good horse. Slow fractions or no. It's not like this crop is spectacular.

ateamstupid 07-27-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 989712)
I understand that the pace was slow but the two horses that were going to be pressuring him attempted to do so early in the race.

Bayern is a good horse. Slow fractions or no. It's not like this crop is spectacular.

I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.

tanner12oz 07-27-2014 05:25 PM

This horse has matured very well over the last few months..he has late on the trail was green through the preps and derby trial...preakness didn't show anything and then blinkers come on and this horse puts it together. You gotta admit like it or not this is a much more fit and professional bayern than we saw this spring...his last 2 performances are some of the most dominating performances we have seen from a 3 year old male

Pants II 07-27-2014 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 989717)
I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.

I don't think Baffert will run him in the Travers. Pennsylvania Derby against Chrome.

tanner12oz 07-27-2014 05:31 PM

Horse has won on the east and on the west...different distances..has shown more the most of the paper champions of this division

RockHardTen1985 07-27-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 989710)
With those fractions and trip on that biased track, there was absolutely no way the horse was going to lose. I hope he goes in the Travers so I can bet against him with both fists.

I dont think they point to the Travers. Its either Kings Bishop or PA Derby. I would run in the Kings Bishop. He would be 4-5 for another G1.

jms62 07-27-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 989722)
I don't think Baffert will run him in the Travers. Pennsylvania Derby against Chrome.

Makes sense. Parx is another track that rewards the front end.

Merlinsky 07-27-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 989730)
I dont think they point to the Travers. Its either Kings Bishop or PA Derby. I would run in the Kings Bishop. He would be 4-5 for another G1.

Baffert said no to shortening up for the King's Bishop after the Haskell.

Aly-Sheba 07-27-2014 07:06 PM

I thought it was very impressive and visually it was better the Wicked Strong race. Maybe he can't go a mile and a quarter, but you don't know until you try.

10 pnt move up 07-27-2014 10:54 PM

Strongest group of socal three year olds since.....thinking Tiznow and General Challenge, think that was the same year.

Congaree and Point Given was the same year as well. But there are three really good ones this year.

Indian Charlie 07-28-2014 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 989829)
Strongest group of socal three year olds since.....thinking Tiznow and General Challenge, think that was the same year.

Congaree and Point Given was the same year as well. But there are three really good ones this year.

Different years for tiznow and general challenge.

Socal three year olds were mostly irrelevant during the heyday of synthetic

Kasept 07-28-2014 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 989730)
I dont think they point to the Travers. Its either Kings Bishop or PA Derby. I would run in the Kings Bishop. He would be 4-5 for another G1.

Baffert said yesterday he doesn't want to turn him back now. On ATR later. Likely 11:30a.

Benny 07-28-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 989834)
Baffert said yesterday he doesn't want to turn him back now. On ATR later. Likely 11:30a.

Didnot see him at Monmouth yesterday for his 7th Haskell $1 mil win, is he feeling ok ?

Kasept 07-28-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 989841)
Didnot see him at Monmouth yesterday for his 8th Haskell $1 mil win, is he feeling ok ?

He travels very little since the health crisis in Dubai.

freddymo 07-28-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 989834)
Baffert said yesterday he doesn't want to turn him back now. On ATR later. Likely 11:30a.

7 of the last 21 Haskell's for Baffert. Pretty FN remarkable. Shah seems like an incredibly humble and likely gentleman. It's easy to root for that man.

Benny 07-28-2014 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 989717)
I disagree, I thought the rides on Wildcat Red and Social Inclusion were ridiculously passive. He's a good horse, but today's performance will make everyone overrate him immensely.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...-07-27&race=12

Social Inclusion was very fractious prerace, and broke thru the gate,stumbled and bumped at the break, Wildcat Heir stumbled at the start.


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