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Danzig 11-15-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 954143)
Well Obama's failure was predictable from his 2 year stint as a Senator before running for president. This "community organizer" lacks just about every quality necessary to be president except for good enough ocular acuity to read a teleprompter.

Your guy strings together prose just fine as long as someone else writes it for him to read off the prompter, and hasn't had an original thought for his whole term. Saul Alinsky and other socialists have said it all before. He's a recycled retread.

and he's not 'my guy'. i didn't vote for him in either election, i thought he would do poorly. i don't think he had enough experience, i thought he was naive. his pronouncements on change and his talk of things he was going to do were scoffed at by me. apparently you either didn't read or you choose to ignore all that.
it's too bad tho, that people tend to forget all that, because i won't fall in line with their 'black or white' way of looking at things and will challenge the 'worst president ever' pronouncements, or because i explain you're putting way, way too much blame on one person. the same one person i said was dreaming that he could change things.
he, and we, are a victim of the system.

your bias dictates what you say on here. try looking at everything candidly, without preconceived notions. i'd also recommend you read history, it will help put things in perspective regarding what has come before-and how our current 'leaders' compare.
also, it would help you persuade if you didn't suggest such things as palin being 'better'. that's hilarious.

also, how much has been kept from being done, or undone, because of the House? repubs made no secret that their sole purpose since obama took office was to thwart everything and anything. to hurt him at every opportunity, for good or for ill. how does that help this country or its citizens?

alysheba4 11-15-2013 12:54 PM

what has he ever wanted that has been stoped? he makes it very clear.....its his way or GFY.

Danzig 11-15-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 954170)
what has he ever wanted that has been stoped? he makes it very clear.....its his way or GFY.

what?

is he obama? do you mean stopped?
and are we talking about the same person? obama, until the recent govt shutdown, always tried to achieve compromise. always asked for both parties to come together and come up with solutions. wanted bipartisanship. his grandiose designs for everyone coming together and making things better is an abject failure.
now, that's mainly due to republican intransigence. or are we to pretend that their comments on stonewalling every obama initiative didn't happen?

remember this?

MCCONNELL: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

alysheba4 11-15-2013 01:19 PM

i did mean stopped. and yes Obama gets Everything he wants.

alysheba4 11-15-2013 01:20 PM

repubs are so weak he just blows those losers off

Danzig 11-15-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 954177)
i did mean stopped. and yes Obama gets Everything he wants.

really? you sure?

what about gitmo for startes? last i heard, it was still open.

how's ending tax deductions for companies that offshore going?

how's that budget deal going? i think we're still under sequester.

that's just off the top of my head.


oh, just looked--politifact has him at 45% on promises kept.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

i'm pretty sure everything would equal 100%, not 45%.

promises broken, 22%.

joeydb 11-15-2013 02:34 PM

I'd rather lose gitmo and keep my healthcare instead of the other way around.:rolleyes:

Danzig 11-15-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 954190)
I'd rather lose gitmo and keep my healthcare instead of the other way around.:rolleyes:

are you losing your healthcare?

joeydb 11-15-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 954191)
are you losing your healthcare?

Not yet. This is the last year that employer-provided healthcare does not get hit. Next year is a different story.

That's when the other 80% get screwed. You think 5 million and counting is bad - next year it will be closer to 100 million.

GBBob 11-15-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 954188)
really? you sure?

what about gitmo for startes? last i heard, it was still open.

how's ending tax deductions for companies that offshore going?

how's that budget deal going? i think we're still under sequester.

that's just off the top of my head.


oh, just looked--politifact has him at 45% on promises kept.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

i'm pretty sure everything would equal 100%, not 45%.

promises broken, 22%.

Immigration reform..nope

Reasonable Gun Control..Nope

Danzig 11-15-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 954196)
Not yet. This is the last year that employer-provided healthcare does not get hit. Next year is a different story.

That's when the other 80% get screwed. You think 5 million and counting is bad - next year it will be closer to 100 million.

citation, please.

Danzig 11-15-2013 02:54 PM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejap...keep-coverage/

About 90 percent of self-insured employers say they “don’t plan to move any” of their insured workers to public exchanges, which are making their debut this fall under the Affordable Care Act, a national business coalition said


“About 90% of the responding employers said they don’t plan to move employees and their dependents to either public marketplaces or private exchanges in the near future,” Larry Boress, president and chief executive officer of the Midwest Business Group said.

Danzig 11-15-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 954198)
Immigration reform..nope

Reasonable Gun Control..Nope

we must be reading the wrong stuff, bob...

because obama gets everything he wants. ;)

joeydb 11-15-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 954199)
citation, please.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...na-break-lose/

jms62 11-15-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 954203)

Rush ****ing Limbaugh is your reasoned research? You're having a banner day..

joeydb 11-15-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 954205)
Rush ****ing Limbaugh is your reasoned research? You're having a banner day..

Is he wrong? Or do you just hate him too much to concede that the facts are correct.

jms62 11-15-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 954207)
Is he wrong? Or do you just hate him too much to concede that the facts are correct.

There is NOTHING WHATSOEVER in the article backing up what he said. NADA, ZIP , ZILCH. He gave no reasoning, NONE.

Danzig 11-15-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 954203)

lmao
oh my.

Danzig 11-15-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 954207)
Is he wrong? Or do you just hate him too much to concede that the facts are correct.

lol
you hate obama, therefore everything he does is wrong. even if it's not, he did it, so it's wrong. and then you call out someone for possibly doing the same thing?!
good lord, do you listen to yourself?

can you find me a piece by someone with no bias, no agenda, non partisan, who just gives facts? please.
if rush said the sky was blue, i'd want it verified.

bigrun 11-15-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 954215)
lmao
oh my.

Rush tells it like it is...here's one of his better clips...:zz:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o6yrdInw6s


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