The pace was so slow and he folded after 7 furlongs or so, it was so far below par for him I would not be surprised if there is a problem. He ran better last year under worse circumstances.

I think Lava Man was a better horse but a good comparison.

Not sure how anyone could watch this race and say this horse can't run well shipping or run well in top class.

http://youtu.be/nphYp4R9tyE

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...AY=D&STYLE=EQB

The other speed ran 7, 10 and 11. He ran the other speed into the ground and got caught late. I thought it was an excellent effort.

He needs to be on the lead and clear but he is a pretty solid horse.

The pace wasn't slow.

And you say this because?

Timeform has already done the figures, and it was slow, I wont say a crawl but well below par for what was expected.

Moss had it above par. . . What do you mean by "what was expected?" Wasn't a crazy-fast pace expected? Don't think we got that, but definitely didn't get a slow pace.

Where are the moss figures, would like to look at them for a differing opinion?

Formulator

Can you post them for the classic please.