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GenuineRisk 10-23-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 950256)
i wouldnt want to be held responsible if someone stole my gun and used it. i lock my house, and my guns are stored in a safe. ive taken every precaution....this would be akin to being charged if someone carjacked me and killed someone in a high speed chase.
now, those who knowingly buy a gun for a felon, give to or sell a gun to someone who is banned from buying-by all means, prosecute. but then i doubt anyone fails to report a stolen gun, unless they had it illegally. they want them back after all

And that's my point- if you promptly report a stolen gun, it wouldn't be an issue. An owner like you would never run afoul of it because you're responsible already. The aim isn't to suddenly end all gun violence (nothing will do that, of course); it's to put people in a position where they will take more responsibility for their firearms.

In the not-a-responsible-owner corner, a five-year-old shoots himself with babysitter's gun:

http://gawker.com/5-year-old-texas-b...ysi-1450688178

Danzig 10-24-2013 01:32 PM

http://news.msn.com/us/3-children-sl...es-at-assembly

oops.
brilliant idea, having a gun right there where a kid can pull the trigger. so, no safety on either. brilliant!
and i'm sure many think having a safety on prevents a gun from firing. that would be wrong. it keeps the trigger from being pulled, but a dropped gun can fire, safety or no. just ask people who have experienced it up close and personal.

dellinger63 10-24-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 950480)
and i'm sure many think having a safety on prevents a gun from firing. that would be wrong. it keeps the trigger from being pulled, but a dropped gun can fire, safety or no. just ask people who have experienced it up close and personal.

Depends on what kind of gun. All my semi-autos (many different manufacturers) safety consist of a plate sliding between the firing pin and bullet, trigger can still be pulled with safety on, they can be dropped and even used as hammers with no miss-fires while my revolvers and long guns sans a few semi-auto shotguns safety's lock the trigger as you are describing above.

Pretty sure it's not policy for a motorcycle cop to ride around with a AR-15 hot. The gun is not at fault though it will surely be blamed. ;)

dellinger63 10-24-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 950197)
BTW Honduras is on top at 82.1 homicides per 100K.

Some surprising runner ups.

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Puerto Rico 26.2

Jamaica 52.1

Makes the U.S.A. look like a safe haven! :tro:

http://www.businessinsider.com/1homi...gin-islands-13

Should have said except Englewood, a neighborhood of Chicago consisting of about 30,000 residents and a murder rate of 200 per 100,000, more than double the rate of world leading Honduras. :tro:

bigrun 10-25-2013 02:22 PM

Few years old story but time for sentencing..

Ahead of sentencing, mom fears fate of boy who killed neo-Nazi father 'looks really dim'.

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A boy who was 10 years old when he fatally shot his neo-Nazi father behind the ear at point-blank range is due to be sentenced Friday, and both his mother and his attorney fear what could happen to him if he ends up in a facility without round-the clock supervision.

Joseph Hall, now 13, has been living in Riverside County, Calif.'s juvenile hall since the killing of his father two years ago, regional neo-Nazi leader Jeff Hall.

On Friday, a hearing will determine how Joseph should be punished for the second-degree murder he was convicted of in January, and will decide where he'll live out the rest of his adolescent years — and possibly early adulthood.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...eally-dim?lite


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