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dellinger63 10-01-2013 07:43 AM

Remember five years ago when we were told we have to spend to prevent going bankrupt?

One thing that spending did get us was $6 trillion more in debt. $40K for every man woman and child in the country, about $160K for every senior. And now we don't have the money to pay the seniors the money they already paid in? Something drastic needs to be done. The budget needs to be cut by a trillion and the debt ceiling should be raised and re-visited in 3 months and every three months after until steady progress is made.

And the next time Washington says it's going to give money to bailouts, junking cars, and bailing out failed cities the American people need to say no f---'n way!

Yea the economy has gotten better, but at what expense? Guess what the interest is on $6 trillion? It's the gift that keeps giving.

Ending on a positive. Thank God the President changed his mind about bombing Syria.

randallscott35 10-01-2013 07:45 AM

The baby boomers simply don't give two shits about future generations or their parents. ZIRP steals from grandma and the endless debt each year f.ucks our children. My hope is the baby boomers are eating cat food after their epic failure of a generation.

jms62 10-01-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 947500)
The baby boomers simply don't give two shits about future generations or their parents. ZIRP steals from grandma and the endless debt each year f.ucks our children. My hope is the baby boomers are eating cat food after their epic failure of a generation.

:zz:

randallscott35 10-01-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 947506)
:zz:

Friskies for you.

GenuineRisk 10-01-2013 11:00 AM

Pretty funny clip from Jimmy Kimmel:

http://gawker.com/kimmel-asks-americ...for-1433866673

Best quote from the comments section:

"Most of America is Lenny and the rest of us are George, just trying to keep them calm and stop them from destroying something."

Danzig 10-01-2013 11:47 AM

jesus

Danzig 10-01-2013 11:56 AM

just saw on slate that foxnews is referring to the shutdown as a 'slimdown'. i guess they figure the republicans are going to take the blame, so let's rename the shutdown something less worrisome! yay, fox 'news'

bigrun 10-01-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 947542)
just saw on slate that foxnews is referring to the shutdown as a 'slimdown'. i guess they figure the republicans are going to take the blame, so let's rename the shutdown something less worrisome! yay, fox 'news'


Did you watch last nite's Stewart show yet?..covered it well...Had Orielly on last nite and he was his usual aszhole self...said Obama is weak because he didn't bomb Syria..:zz:..

Here's one of Stewarts rants from the show..it was on the gawker link..:D

Quote:

Apparently, they are allowed to do that — [members of Congress] are allowed to make laws, and the President is allowed to sign laws. And what do we do if those laws are unconstitutional? Well apparently nine precogs in magic robes got together, looked at the Affordable Care Act, and decided that it was not unconstitutional.

So everything appears to have been done literally by the book. This bill is now a law, vetted by the very system these Republicans claim to love — but to hear Republicans tell it, the whole thing could just be avoided if President Obama would just meet him halfway!

The bill is a ****ing law! Are you familiar with how the word works? Did you see the Giants game on Sunday? Okay: they lost 31 to 7. And you know what the Giants didn’t say after that game? 'If you don’t give us 25 more points by midnight on Monday, we are gonna shut down the NFL!'

Danzig 10-01-2013 12:42 PM

no, will watch sometime this evening. probably during a caps intermission! didn't watch the gawker link, want to see it all at one time.

Rudeboyelvis 10-01-2013 01:16 PM

From last season's Newsroom, but well worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAvwSp86hY

bigrun 10-01-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 947547)
From last season's Newsroom, but well worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAvwSp86hY

:tro:

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Why is it that when a rich person takes advantage of a corporate tax break and other tax cuts, he is called a good businessman, but when a poor person takes advantage of food stamps or welfare in order to survive, he is called a moocher?:zz:
Thousands of fed workers will be fuloughed withOUT pay..
Members of Congress continue to fill their pockets..
At least SS checks will continue..:tro:

Danzig 10-01-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 947547)
From last season's Newsroom, but well worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAvwSp86hY

have seen it before, good clip.


and this, from an article about obama's earlier rose garden speech:

'The president says Republicans should not be able to hold the entire economy "hostage." '

he's right, they shouldn't be able to. but they are right now. that's exactly what they're doing, willingly harming this country because they want obamacare gone. republicans conceded a shutdown was harmful, but went ahead with their plan anyway. it's a disgrace.

i don't like obamacare, but this move by the tea partiers is a horrible step in the wrong direction.
i hope obama either issues an executive order raising the ceiling, or he has the mint issue some high denomination coinage. shove this bs right down the throat of one small group of congress, who is willfully engaging in behavior harmful to this country.
oh, and don't forget...while people are furloughed, etc...congress still gets their paychecks.

dellinger63 10-01-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 947551)

and this, from an article about obama's earlier rose garden speech:

'The president says Republicans should not be able to hold the entire economy "hostage." '.

Neither should the grossly obese group that was assembled behind him during the speech who were finally able afford $2,000/month and up policies because $1600 and up will be subsidized.

And if the Fed workers that were out marching in front of the Dirksen Federal Building in Chicago are any representation of workers furloughed, half can be sent home for good regardless of this outcome. Or at least follow the private world and reduce their hours to 28/week so their health care can be dropped. :zz:

Danzig 10-01-2013 02:06 PM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...overnment.html


love this front page, hilarious!

and take note, tea partiers:

By a 72-22 margin, voters opposed Congress shutting down the federal government to block the implementation of Obamacare. Even though Americans were divided on the merits of the healthcare law itself—with 45 percent in favor and 47 percent opposed (but take note that people are far more supportive of the affordable care act, without realizing it's the same thing)—they were against the idea of Congress cutting off funding for the law, 58 percent to 34 percent.

also,

But Republicans in Congress have hit a record low, the poll shows. Only 17 percent of voters approve of the way GOP members of Congress are handling their jobs, while a whopping 74 percent disapprove.

Obama's approval rating is net-negative: 45 percent approve, and 49 percent disapprove. And congressional Democrats earn a 32-percent approval rating, while three-in-five voters disapprove.

Looking ahead to the 2014 elections, Democrats lead Republicans on the generic ballot, the poll shows, 43 percent to 34 percent. (largest gap since 2009).

GenuineRisk 10-01-2013 02:25 PM

And 48 ways the Gov't shutdown will affect us:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...cally-everyone

Danzig 10-01-2013 02:50 PM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_..._to_blame.html


this, on the tea party. good article.

bigrun 10-01-2013 02:50 PM

Not intended for anyone here, applies to those folks in DC..






Danzig 10-01-2013 03:54 PM

oh, foxnews, you're so funny....from their front page:

Pols dig in amid slimdown stalemate

A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN? Not really — turns out it's more of a SLIMDOWN
Unions say they'll fight for back payGov't slimdown to be felt beyond Capitol Hill Much of gov't remains open in slimdown | Major Federal sites offline
Obama signs bill to pay military during slimdown |
Gov't slimdown will ground NASA almost entirely
How to visit national parks during partial slimdown
Vets sweep past barricades in defiance of slimdown


lol
hilarious. shutdown....what shutdown?

bigrun 10-01-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 947571)
oh, foxnews, you're so funny....from their front page:

Pols dig in amid slimdown stalemate

A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN? Not really — turns out it's more of a SLIMDOWN
Unions say they'll fight for back payGov't slimdown to be felt beyond Capitol Hill Much of gov't remains open in slimdown | Major Federal sites offline
Obama signs bill to pay military during slimdown |
Gov't slimdown will ground NASA almost entirely
How to visit national parks during partial slimdown
Vets sweep past barricades in defiance of slimdown


lol
hilarious. shutdown....what shutdown?

Yeah, they are on top on things with the latest twists:)

Even as Mrs Lincoln was leaving Ford theater after the assassination a Fox talking head was out there and asked her 'Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play':zz:

Danzig 10-01-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 947544)
Did you watch last nite's Stewart show yet?..covered it well...Had Orielly on last nite and he was his usual aszhole self...said Obama is weak because he didn't bomb Syria..:zz:..

Here's one of Stewarts rants from the show..it was on the gawker link..:D

yeah, just watched it. and i love the wonka line, it fits so many scenarios.
but the worst part of the show, the stat that brought the most pain?!?!

that o'reilly has already sold 350k copies of his latest horrible waste of paper and ink.


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