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MaTH716 08-13-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 940252)
fine but then go the Tracey Gold route afterwards.

Are you crazy? Have you seen the price of food lately?

randallscott35 08-13-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 940253)
Are you crazy? Have you seen the price of food lately?

Hence the stress. A vicious cycle

Sightseek 08-13-2013 03:15 PM

I'm still positive that I'm the only person who has ever starved in New Orleans.

:D

randallscott35 08-13-2013 03:18 PM

Back on topic for 10 seconds. The clerk at the store pretty much denies Oprah's story and says she told oprah the bag she was currently looking at was the exact same material as the one she asked about. English is also not her first language and said Oprah seemed to understand what she meant....in response Oprah has basically apologized for blowing this out of proportion. What a shock. A complete attention whore trying desperately to pump her OWN agenda.

GenuineRisk 08-14-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 940256)
Back on topic for 10 seconds. The clerk at the store pretty much denies Oprah's story and says she told oprah the bag she was currently looking at was the exact same material as the one she asked about. English is also not her first language and said Oprah seemed to understand what she meant....in response Oprah has basically apologized for blowing this out of proportion. What a shock. A complete attention whore trying desperately to pump her OWN agenda.

TheRoot.com had an interesting piece on this-

http://www.theroot.com/views/racism-...sunderstanding

GenuineRisk 08-15-2013 02:44 PM

I'm sure this is all just another misunderstanding, too:

http://gawker.com/firefighter-handcu...wav-1148893688

randallscott35 08-15-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 940497)
I'm sure this is all just another misunderstanding, too:

http://gawker.com/firefighter-handcu...wav-1148893688

This does not seem like a misunderstanding, and is a sad statement on these police officers....Quite a reach to compare to Oprah and the handbag.

Danzig 08-15-2013 04:26 PM

groan


i think the police need to go thru yearly training. they also need to understand every person and every gesture isn't a threat.

found it eye opening to see that altho the races all equally commit crime, or use drugs, that people of color are stopped more often and arrested more often than white people. most people on death row are there for killing a white person, whereas people who murder someone of color are almost never given that penalty.

the police mostly deal with bad people, which probably makes them eventually treat everyone as 'bad'. it's bound to affect their outlook on people. HOWEVER, that's why i suggest yearly training. they need to be re-trained to keep them from becoming paranoid. they also need to understand that quite often people view them as the bad guy because of stories like this one, and garbage like stop and frisk.

bigrun 08-15-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 940533)
groan


i think the police need to go thru yearly training. they also need to understand every person and every gesture isn't a threat.

found it eye opening to see that altho the races all equally commit crime, or use drugs, that people of color are stopped more often and arrested more often than white people. most people on death row are there for killing a white person, whereas people who murder someone of color are almost never given that penalty.

the police mostly deal with bad people, which probably makes them eventually treat everyone as 'bad'. it's bound to affect their outlook on people. HOWEVER, that's why i suggest yearly training. they need to be re-trained to keep them from becoming paranoid. they also need to understand that quite often people view them as the bad guy because of stories like this one, and garbage like stop and frisk.

Last or nite b4 John Oliver did a bit on New York City stop-and-frisk program..you catch it...funny...

Danzig 08-15-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 940559)
Last or nite b4 John Oliver did a bit on New York City stop-and-frisk program..you catch it...funny...

yep

Danzig 08-16-2013 10:50 AM

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._shooting.html



the video:


http://www.pnj.com/article/20130813/...nclick_check=1

dellinger63 08-18-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 940533)

found it eye opening to see that altho the races all equally commit crime, or use drugs, that people of color are stopped more often and arrested more often than white people. most people on death row are there for killing a white person, whereas people who murder someone of color are almost never given that penalty.

Wish that were true with Chicago's murder problem but it's not.

From City homicide stats for 2011

1) 75% of all murder victims were African American

2) 70% of murder offenders were African American (20% were Hispanic)

BTW 77% of victims had a prior record and 87% of offenders had a prior.

https://portal.chicagopolice.org/por...ports/MA11.pdf

When you consider the racial makeup of the city (32% being African American) the fact that nearly all offenders are male (half of 32% or 16%) and that 90% plus of offenders are aged 16-30 (which represents roughly 20% of the population) 20% of 16% leaves you with 3.2% of the general public representing almost 70% of murderers.

At least in Chicago (not sure of the rest of the country) if you're a African American male between 16-30 you may be stopped because of statistics rather than any notion of racism. After all you're also the most likely to become a victim only because you're African American and statistically are a target for other African Americans.

But first let's get that apology and $35K purse Oprah is owed. ;)


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