thanks jms.
yeah, tony and i are voth vets, so is our oldest. have several nephews as well as my youngest in the military.

yeah, timmi must have read the welsh proverb that says 'it's easy to be brave behind a castle wall'.

i see our returning vets, who have given so much for so little, and it angers me. lost limbs, lost sight, lost time, head injuries that will effect them forever. and now some dumbass who thinks that medal of honor on the ps3 is how it is in real life is all gung ho to go fight-only, he won't be the one fighting. but yeah, i'm the chicken.
i served timmi, how about you?

I found this amusing.


You should mention to the clucking hen that Sterling made an observation about the Z half sister in the Bogs thread.She needs to waddle over there,quote his statement and type "I agree."

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/te...lict-1C7094755

twitter....next i guess they'll be unliking each other on facebook.

seriously tho, probably not a bad idea. i have to think in the age of instant communication, and easy access to info, that maybe people will be less inclined to go to war.
in the days of the revolution, etc, it took months to find out news. the war of 1812 was a direct result of incredibly slow communication. we made a demand, and then declared war-and found after we'd started the fight that we'd actually gotten what we wanted. whoops.
and slow news also made a hero out of andrew jackson. his unnecessary battle in new orleans was won and news spread before the word that a treaty had been signed got back to the u.s.

yeah, this 'chicken' is all for war being the last resort, as it should be.

Yes you are a big..see below

Why not fight all wars on facebook, twitter,my space,craigs list,linkedin, whatever...:tro:

Do you want to have the next middle east war before or after Iran gets nuclear weapons?

The peace process is a farce. So is the idea of any land for peace treaty. The PLO and Hamas want to destroy Israel, period.

This president will not lift a finger to help Israel, which I find interesting since the Democrats all but have locked up the Jewish vote. Still can't figure that out.

If Obama wants to do something, instead of urging restraint from the Israelis as he and Bush 43 have done, instead turn Netanyahu loose. Tell the world, "We've given the all clear. Any more funny business, and the Israeli defense forces will clean your clock."

And when the rest of the world gets involved will you hit the reset button to start the game over?

So what's your answer? Increased 'restraint' from Israel that is already losing the numbers game year after year in population growth due to birth rate? The country is only 9 miles wide at the narrowest point (excluding the eternally "occupied" West Bank of the Jordan River)

To quote Godfather Part 2, the only answer is "to hit them now, while we have the muscle." Or else this whole thing is doomed, and then why are we allied with them at all?

Strategically, with hindsight being 20/20, the 1948 decision to reconstitute the ancient homeland in the same place it was 2000 years before has got to be the biggest mistake made by all of the WWII Allies and United Nations Security Council permanent members. Who didn't foresee that this would cause perpetual conflict that will never be resolved?

I understand why they did it. I'm sure that all concerned thought there would be eventually a normalization of relations and stability in the region. But this is now evident that it won't be stable ever. And the UK, which helped champion this idea left it to us to wrestle with this. And if we decline in world power, Israel is toast. No doubt about it.

You need another 1967 Six Day war to go well and bloody the noses of the enemy once again. But when Iran gets nukes, who knows how long until they turn Tel Aviv and Jerusalem into smoking holes?

They don't need no steenkin help...Check the chart, 5 wins and 2 ties.
Don't need to give them the all clear, they take it on their own.

'Wars begin where you will but they do not end where you please'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_Israel

Some indications' Hamas-Israeli truce is possible, Egypt says.


Please hurry..:wf


http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...gypt-says?lite

I was pleased with President Obama's comments today. He was very supportive of Israel. He said that, "No country in the world would tolerate missiles reigning down on its citizens from outside its borders. We are fully supportive of Israel's right to defend itself."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...75b_video.html

this is essentially what I was saying! With regards to Danzig...have thanked her and her family for their service. The common "cluck cluck" response was kiddingly used as "ok...thats your 2 cents"......hardly deserved the delirium that followed! HOPE YALL HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING!

How common is a cluck cluck response?


...none of my business, just sayin

here's hoping.

a smarter man than me once said that an unjust peace was better than the most just war. maybe i'm starting to show my age??


hey, it's all good timmi. you've never said anything untoward to me. happy turkey day.

See on the late news that Hillary is over there brokering a cease fire...Hope she has Bubba with her...btw, what branch were you in?...:tro:

tony and i were both in the navy.

Great...My wife and i were both in the AF...Two of my best buds were Navy..

No worries, Egypt is our friend and will intercede. Just ask Obama.

Or did we actually waste billions freeing them to Islamic rule?

AF here too, but a very long time ago. I think they were still flying bi-planes when I got out.:D

:D

Not even close young fella...I was in personnel, moved people around the world, not a pilot..But i met the pilot trainers, brothers by the name of Wright, Wilbur was one of em..:D...In my 4 years i was inside a plane ONCE, on a hop from SanFran to Kelly and took a train from there to PA..:D