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Danzig 09-26-2012 01:28 PM

and as something i linked said, less than half of the economists surveyed said it would turn out to be worth it in the long run.
they don't know for sure. over half didn't even want to guess that it would. i doubt it turns out to have a good ROI long term.

Riot 09-26-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 892427)
and as something i linked said, less than half of the economists surveyed said it would turn out to be worth it in the long run.
they don't know for sure. over half didn't even want to guess that it would. i doubt it turns out to have a good ROI long term.

The stimulus is over. It's effect on the economy is over, and retroactively measurable and done.

Of course, if you quote stuff from 2 years ago ,- yeah, the end results "wait to be seen."

Clip-Clop 09-26-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 892497)
The stimulus is over. It's effect on the economy is over, and retroactively measurable and done.

Of course, if you quote stuff from 2 years ago ,- yeah, the end results "wait to be seen."

Could you please post the official results and the end ROI? I am still seeing projections etc.
Was hoping for a quantifiable result that shows just what a success this was for the money.

Riot 09-26-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 892502)
Could you please post the official results and the end ROI?

Could you please read what has been posted, rather than deliberately ignoring it and purposely being superficial and shallow?

You know, like that "end report" from the CBO that you pretend you are well awares of already, you have addressed and called false, but now are pretending doesn't exist?

Clip-Clop 09-26-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 892504)
Could you please read what has been posted, rather than deliberately ignoring it and purposely being superficial and shallow?

You know, like that "end report" from the CBO that you pretend you are well awares of already, you have addressed and called false, but now are pretending doesn't exist?

The one I posted? That wasn't a final, just a quarterly with projections. I would like to see the one from the CBO you are using.

Riot 09-26-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 892506)
The one I posted? That wasn't a final, just a quarterly with projections. I would like to see the one from the CBO you are using.

Gee - too bad you didn't read the basic report and premise of the thread Guess you are not an honest debater - you just demagogue. You talk as if you've read it, when you've repeatedly torn it apart as invalid.

If you're interested, which I doubt, click on one of the many links where I've posted multiple times on Derby Trail. Or dare to google it.

Probably better, when you jump right into multiple threads commenting upon on a subject, you bother to familiarize yourself with the subject, first.

Cannon Shell 09-26-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 892376)
Exactly. Now imagine your scenario if Doc borrowed that $10 million for you to spend on yearlings.

Dont give him any ideas

Clip-Clop 09-27-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 892513)
Gee - too bad you didn't read the basic report and premise of the thread Guess you are not an honest debater - you just demagogue. You talk as if you've read it, when you've repeatedly torn it apart as invalid.

If you're interested, which I doubt, click on one of the many links where I've posted multiple times on Derby Trail. Or dare to google it.

Probably better, when you jump right into multiple threads commenting upon on a subject, you bother to familiarize yourself with the subject, first.

So what you're saying, once again, is that you do not have the actual report to post in line with this debate. You mention a CBO report (much like you mention the healthcare bill or the many bills congress ahs introduced to restrict women's rights etc.) and only post opinion pieces or blog posts to defend your position whereas I always go and find and quote the actual documents that do not represent the positions that you take. it is exhausting and foolish to debate with you and I will go back to not doing anymore since your position is always google it or read a newspaper to find why Riot thinks they way she does. Just silly. Carry on.


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