He's just not fast enough
 

I like LR, but I don't think he is fast enough to compete at the top level. How about turf>

If i remember correctly, in the ARK. Derby, he was off the pace until midway round the CLUBHOUSE turn, and took command at the 6 furlong, and tugged McKee with him. Basically was a carbon copy of the ARk derby today, just didnt win.

I only saw the race once so I can't remember exactly. I think he may have taken a little dirt early on and then swung out on the far turn. I can't remeber if he cricled the field or came between horses. He was way back early. The Form shows he was 5th, 8 lengths back at the first call. At the 2nd call he was 5th, 6 1/2 lengths behind. He was 2nd, a length back at the 3rd call.

It's something to keep in mind. I think the 12F will be no problem, he is improving. I don't know what his limitations are yet.

sorry, i meant 10 f. today was 9f. :D

i guess point determined didn't like cajun cookin'

I love Lawyer Ron. He is a nice, gutsy horse that you can't help but root for. I agree with DaHoss in that I think Lawyer Ron is a very nice Grade II horse, but doesn't belong at the top. Neither one of the top two horses were slow today as the final time of the race was very nice, and Lawyer Ron ran under 47 seconds for the opening half mile. He was also expending a lot of energy, and was very rank. After watching the race, I think that LR might could have held off SC for the win had LR been able to settle. It would have been close though. I really don't think that LR is a mile and a quarter horse. I also don't think that is would be wise to send LR to the BCC this year. He would definitely be overmatched in that race.

SC is definitely improving. I think that Ward should definitely take the gamble and send this horse to the BC Classic. I loved the way be accelerated and galloped down the stretch today. Beautiful moving horse. It looks as if a mile and a quarter isn't going to be a problem for him...

just showered and was thinking in the shower that holthus needs to get a new rider for this guy. it's a shame. had he not fought with him, taking some of his energy, he might have had enough left at the end. no quitter in that one for sure. but that ride....yikes.

exactly!!! argh....not saying that strong contender wouldn't have caught him anyway, but damn.

lol overhyped??? horse is well inside the top ten in earnings for the year. he's a mule alright.

Lava Man last year Pacific Classic!

With all due respect, PD only had a step to fall down, he was never that good, my opinion

I know he was entered in a maiden 100k claimer, he may of scratched out of the race, but I am pretty sure he ran. It was his first race at Santa Anita. Oh well it really doesn't matter.

you're right , nobodys perfect.

I know i am just being a hard a s s he does move horses up more than most jocks.:D

Of all the things to be thinking about while in the shower you're thinking about Bob Holthus???

:D :D

lol

not bob holthus...hell, no telling what will cross your mind in a free moment....my brain runs constantly, it's annoying at times, like when i'm trying to sleep and i can't shut down. i can't just sit. if i'm in a car, but not driving, i have to have something to read, or write, or do. in the shower i think...it's freaky.

I don't think it was all McKee's fault, this is the second time that LR has run off like that, I don't know why he does it sometimes and sometimes not, he's kind of a strange horse. I think Rupert has the right idea any time you ask the horse he's go go go and no tractibility. He should have won that race yesterday, but he went too fast too early and maybe he's a little distance challenged to go that fast that early and win at a distance. Take nothing away from Strong Contender, he's a nice horse and he did what he should to win...I think both LR and SC ran very good races yesterday, there was a ton of lengths back to the other horses...When I saw that SC had that big Beyer, I thought that was inflated, but the Sheets gave him a -3 for that race, that's Bernardini-like. I am really curious to see what the #'s will be coming out of this race, because I think they will be respectable for both of them. Point Determined is not as good of a horse as LR or SC, but he's not that bad, he had to get hurt...I see no reason why both should not go on to the BC and they'll have plenty of time between races, I give both of them a big chance to run 2-3 in the BC...

Congrats Gander, I know you said you were loading up on SC, I made my first bet since the opening week of the Spa, keyed LR in a super, it was a small bet on my part, so no big loss. You said you were going big and when I saw SC getting to LR, I actually started cheering him on...

And to whoever said that LR should try turf, you might want to open up a Racing Form and look at his pp's....