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Rudeboyelvis 08-13-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 882639)
To be fair I'm jumping on and off and reading stuff in pieces here and there but this caught my attention.... not so much because really anyone can be said to have been an "associate" in a workplace where they have connections but this... this is what interests me.....


In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004.During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.

Now I'm only doing the math in my head but this - the number of hours - doesn't this seem very very low?

It's roughly 4 and a half months of "Full Time" work. So only about 15% of his time (factoring in vacation time, about 10% actual) as a "Full Time" lawyer was actually spent billing work.

I don't know of any law firms that could possibly stay in business if they relied on that degree of productivity.

geeker2 08-13-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 882996)
It's roughly 4 and a half months of "Full Time" work. So only about 15% of his time (factoring in vacation time, about 10% actual) as a "Full Time" lawyer was actually spent billing work.

I don't know of any law firms that could possibly stay in business if they relied on that degree of productivity.

Thank God he is now a government employee!

Riot 08-13-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 882996)
It's roughly 4 and a half months of "Full Time" work. So only about 15% of his time (factoring in vacation time, about 10% actual) as a "Full Time" lawyer was actually spent billing work.

I don't know of any law firms that could possibly stay in business if they relied on that degree of productivity.

Why don't you two re-read the CV, and look at dates? Which answers your concerns. Gee - what else was Obama doing full-time at that point in his career?

pointman 08-13-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 883092)
Why don't you two re-read the CV, and look at dates? Which answers your concerns. Gee - what else was Obama doing full-time at that point in his career?

Organizing a community?

Riot 08-13-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 883096)
Organizing a community?

Why don't you point out the time and place Obama was a "community organizer" for us? You know, out of the work history I posted.

kp319 08-13-2012 03:56 PM

Elections over folks, Obama easy! Make your bets now if you already haven,t . Good Luck KP

bigrun 08-13-2012 04:06 PM

Back on topic of the thread...this one is for the geek..:D











bigrun 08-13-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kp319 (Post 883099)
Elections over folks, Obama easy! Make your bets now if you already haven,t . Good Luck KP


Not so fast there fella, the repukes ain't dead yet...


Here's the latest repuke email that is floating around...I dun my share and passing it on...free stuff is highlighted everywhere it appears in the email..:)


Free Stuff AND MORE.



I have never heard this said as simply or as well. Class warfare at its best.

The folks who are getting the free stuff don't like the folks who are paying for thefree stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.

And, the folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop.

And the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of thefree stuff they are already getting!

Now... the people who are forcing the people who pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.

So... the people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff and giving them the free stuff in the first place.

We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.

Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason?

The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.

The United States officially became a Republic in 1776, 236 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that in 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it.

ELECTION 2012 IS COMING
A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!

I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON !!!
For all our sake and the sake of our children and grandchildren PLEASE Take a Stand!!!

Riot 08-13-2012 05:56 PM

Sorry to see you felt the need to forward that mindless baloney.

BTW: What exactly is all the "free stuff" certain people are getting? And who and where are they getting it? Would like to get in line for that! :D

The other falsehoods and made-up memes are sad.

Here's a good article on the intersection of Ayn Rand and current stereotypic racial dog whistles on the right. The e-mail you posted fits the description, below, perfectly.

Some excerpts:

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Some of us see pluralism as the fulfillment of America's promise. Others, however, see it as its demise. Pluralism threatens their perceived structure and invades their comfort zone. Randism to them is a way to 'stick it' to the rising pluralism -- to those whom they deem as inferior, as slackers living off government programs, those who are now taking over their neighborhoods and the reins of politics, changing America. Randism offers a way to pull out the ladder from their upward mobility. It comes in a time that 'minority' babies in the United States outnumbered white babies for the first time. That's the context, the racial fear that provides the identity for this Tea Party brand of 'Objectivists.' And, it is happening at the same time that these very same 'patriots' are destroying the anathema of affirmative action and erecting electrified border fences.

The gutting of all meaningful social programs is the New Right's way of making their stand, drawing the line, joining the border patrol, and taking on 'the others.' It reminds me of the last, reactionary years of Apartheid as the power structure tried desperately to cling to the final remnants of their power. 'If we're on the way out, we're going to tear it down for you.' It does not matter that these same people depend upon so many of the programs they seek to abolish to maintain their middle class standard of living. It does not matter that their parents depend upon Medicare and Social Security to survive just above poverty level. There is a cognitive disconnect born out of underlying racial fear to which they have hitched their wagons and assimilated as a group identity. The cult of Randism has wedded the cult of the clan and the prescription has been handed down.

This is why you hear the right wing pundits on talk radio and Fox News and in editorial pieces laud the virtues of Rand on one hand and slip into racial slurs and stereotyping on the other. The two are part of the same meme. It would not surprise me at all if this were an actual strategy formed within the Right Wing think tanks to cultivate the dumb white masses to provide what their backing plutocracy could never expect, populist allegiance. The infamous "wedge" has been employed to such great effect on these same saps in order to corral them toward the hidden causes behind the front causes they thought they owned.

This populist Randism, however, is even more subtle, more insidious, because it is touted as "values" and "work ethic" and "patriotism" even though it is nothing more than the unstated throttle of base racism. The clue that this is indeed a political manipulation rather than ideological or even philosophical organic chemistry is that Rand's individualism, the naming of the self as 'the' center, runs absolutely counter to the idea of a 'populist' movement, a movement of the masses.

Ayn Rand herself despised these movements and these easily led people, referring to Libertarians as "monstrous," "disgusting," and "scum."

In Rand's own words,

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“All kinds of people today call themselves ‘libertarians,’ especially something calling itself the New Right... I could deal with a Marxist with a greater chance of reaching some kind of understanding, and with much greater respect.”
Ayn Rand, The Moratorium on Brains, 1971

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...t-of-the-Right


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